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rear suspension no big deal? by jbaustian
Jun 05, 2007 (6:58 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Jun 05, 2007 3:11 am)

The rear suspension is one of the main differences between the Mk4 and Mk5. And yes, it adds to the cost. Yet I wonder if more than 5-10% of buyers are even aware.
 
I don't see VW going back to the older conventional rear suspension. But that is what I have, and I don't mind. I just know better than to push cornering beyond the limit. Do you corner quicker than I do? Maybe. Do I care? Not much.
 
My own plans are still to replace my 2003 Golf TDI with a 2010 Rabbit model, and to hand my old car down to a family member who'll turn 16 in that year. If there is no 2010 Rabbit TDI, then I'll look at alternatives.
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Re: rear suspension no big deal? [jbaustian] by eldaino
Jun 05, 2007 (9:33 am)
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Replying to: jbaustian (Jun 05, 2007 6:58 am)

i was aware it added cost; i just didn't think that it was the determinig factor for vw to decide to make a cheaper mk6. It has to be something other than just the suspension.
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Brake noise when car is in motion by jamie14
Jun 05, 2007 (9:45 am)
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Has anyone had an annoying brake squeaking noise at a variety of speeds? I have about 3k miles on my new rabbit and it has started squeaking when in motion. Sometimes if I tap my breaks the squeaking will go away....but most of the time it doesn't. I'm getting ready to head to the dealer. Its pretty loud.
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Mk6 by denverdavo
Jun 05, 2007 (2:10 pm)
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Replying to: jbaustian (Jun 05, 2007 6:58 am)

I must be naive, but what is an Mk6 vs. a Mk5?
 
Eldaino, my car shows P, R, N, etc....but does not show the gear I am in...1,2,3,4,5,or 6 when in NON-tiptronic mode. According to the manual, this should be displayed in the very lower right corner.
 
I saw a friend on the freeway the other day and called her cell. She saw my car for the first time driving next to her and the first thing she said was "It's SOOOO cute and I bet it gets EXCELLENT mileage compared to your Camry!"
The fact of the matter is that it gets about 1 mpg. better than the 4 cylinder Camry did. That extra cylinder really does this car in on mileage, but I do love it's performance. Why do I feel like I'm apologizing for the MPG on this car all the time? I keep telling people it's a screamer compared to that Camry, but it's no longer PC in my circles to be burning extra gas just to fill a power ego.
I love this car, but that's the only thing I'm a bit ashamed of. I wanted to do something for the environment. Maybe I can tell them it's one of the cleanest burning car on the market? Seems like I read something about it's emissions being rather spectacular.
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Re: Mk6 [denverdavo] by jbaustian
Jun 05, 2007 (7:32 pm)
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Replying to: denverdavo (Jun 05, 2007 2:10 pm)

The first generation (Mk1) Rabbit/Golf was built from 1974-1984. (It is still under production as the Golf Citi in South Africa.)
 
The 2nd generation was built from 1983-1992. The Rabbit nameplate went away.
 
The 3rd generation 1991-1998.
 
The 4th generation 1997-2006 (though continuing in some countries.
 
The current (5th) generation, the Rabbit/GTI in North America, Golf everywhere else.
 
All the information you want/need is in Wikipedia. The article also says the current model requires 50 man/hours to build, which is why it costs so much to make. And it says the next generation will be introduced in 2008. (Not sure if in Europe only or also NA)
link title
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Re: Mk6 [jbaustian] by denverdavo
Jun 06, 2007 (6:46 am)
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Replying to: jbaustian (Jun 05, 2007 7:32 pm)

Thanks, Jbaustian....that was a cool website with all the history. So, in 2008 do you think there will be a significant body style change? I had no idea this car was out in late 2003 in Europe. It sure took a while to get over here! I also wonder why they don't offer at least one other engine option in the U.S. considering how many different engines have been in this car overseas.
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Re: Mk6 [denverdavo] by jbaustian
Jun 06, 2007 (6:54 am)
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Replying to: denverdavo (Jun 06, 2007 6:46 am)

Davo, you have to remember that VW has to sell Rabbits/Golfs in North America, even if they are losing money. That does not mean they want to, or that offering other attractive engine packages would help their bottom line.
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Re: Mk6 [denverdavo] by eldaino
Jun 06, 2007 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: denverdavo (Jun 05, 2007 2:10 pm)

oh, i see. I didn't realize the manual specified that! I'll have to look at mine, because mine does not show the individual gears like that either.
 
Thanks to jb for posting the link; that was the site i was going to send you too! Accordig to vw, the next version (mark VI) is supposed to be cheaper and more quick to build, and be a bit sportier, which leads me to think that some performance will be emphasized, (and hopefully mpg addressed), and that the interior will probably be less audi like and closer to quality on par with cars like the civic and 3. (not bad by ANY means, but still a little step down from what it is now.)
 
with regards to engine choices and mpg; did you know that the 2.5 is only available here in NA? Europe and everywhere else does not get this engine, its apparently tailored to american tastes. (aside from the torquey diesels, anything smaller than the 2.5 we get, unless its turbo charged, would result in a very slow rabbit.)
 
I wouldn't stress about explaining the mileage to other people; i get the 'i bet it gets great mileage!' all the time too. Most people expect small, cheap cars to get great mileage, but most people also don't realize how heavy the rabbit is, or that its packing a huge 5 cyl. The camry probably weighed just as much, and was packing a smaller 4 cyl; i'd say you are doing pretty good. After having the civic, i did miss the mileage, a lot in fact, but i do appreciate the bunny's ability to do what it does with what hit has. Plus my wife and i only own one car, so gas isn't that big of a deal. Its just me.
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Re: Mk6 [denverdavo] by eldaino
Jun 06, 2007 (7:25 am)
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Replying to: denverdavo (Jun 06, 2007 6:46 am)

it probably will be a different body style, more streamlined, less...well 'poofy' looking. (although i like it.)
 
there are some concepts on a site that someone posted up here on the rabbit forum...the name of the site is in an mk6 thread i posted awhile back. You should be able to run a search using that name and easily find the site. Some of the pictures are totally photshopped, but others offer some real insight to what it could potentially look like.
 
it has been out for awhile in europe, so maybe vw will do the same again, but since we are apparently getting the newer version as soon as 09, its safe to say they may not repeat this and give both markets the same vehicle at the same time.
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Re: Mk6 [denverdavo] by jeffyscott
Jun 06, 2007 (9:22 am)
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Replying to: denverdavo (Jun 05, 2007 2:10 pm)

The fact of the matter is that it gets about 1 mpg. better than the 4 cylinder Camry did. That extra cylinder really does this car in on mileage
 
Actually, I don't think extra cylinder is much of a factor, instead it is the weight. It weighs nearly as much as a Camry, and the engine is about the same displacement and HP, so there is really no reason to expect significantly better mileage.

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