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218 messages, Last post on Nov 30, 2007 at 8:12 PM
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Replying to: akirby (May 16, 2007 7:32 pm) That "Fusion Test" has some minor merit, but it's merely a marketing ploy. GM did a similar "test" for the Achieva in the 1990s--those buyers chose the Olds over Honda/Toyota too. Now, the Achieva is littering junkyards (including mine). IMO, many are choosing the Fusion/Milan over the Camry because of its features, looks and price. It's consistently $2500 less than Camry/Accord. That does not make the Milan a better car, or even an equal one. As I noted, Ford likely took some minor engineering shortcuts to reach that lower price. In 2004, I bought an Alero. It saved me $3k over a Mazda6 and $5k over a Camry. The symphony of squeaks/rattles in my Alero keeps me company on long trips. I wonder if Fusion/Milan owners will be similarly annoyed, over time ??
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Replying to: walterquint (May 17, 2007 4:25 am) There should be no argument that the Fusion handles better than the Camry. So does the Accord. Most people wouldn't notice that unless you put them on a test track and specifically asked them. Or put all 3 cars side by side and let folks rank their styling. Again - something you wouldn't normally do outside of this type of test. Automotive writers are like film critics - they're evaluating vehicles entirely differently than an average buyer would evaluate them. How, then, is Ford supposed to get this type of real world test without paying for it? Would C&D or MT or Edmunds go out and pay for this type of test? Of course not. The reason they outsourced it to C&D and R&T was to ensure that it was a fair test. The only thing this test points out is that the Fusion is competitive and should be considered. This gets people in the showroom that would have otherwise written off the Fusion and once they actually see it and drive it they end up buying one. Of course it's advertising but to say it's biased or not valid is just sour grapes. |
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Replying to: stlpike07 (May 16, 2007 6:35 pm) This statement shows that you did not read the entire article. The Camry/Accord were V6's. So is the Camry/Accord offerning stability control and the Fusion not an issue? |
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Replying to: stlpike07 (May 16, 2007 6:35 pm) Eh, not quite. The Ford commercial at least used V6 models of all cars. Should they have used the best handling variant of all of them (Camry SE)? Yeah, since the one of the only three criteria the commercial measured was handling.
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Replying to: thegraduate (May 18, 2007 6:33 pm) Also, using an "all-wheel drive" car against two without awd.........I really don't care what the results were. All I was saying is that the "advertisement" was a ploy/marketing scheme and that people should do research themselves. Some people are too impressionable and will be unhappy once they realize they made the wrong decision, no matter which vehicle they purchase...thats all.
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Replying to: stlpike07 (May 19, 2007 10:37 am) I don't care either, but to me it was just an ad. The purpose of the ad, IMO, was really just to point out that Milan/Fusion can be had with AWD and to show that advantages of AWD. Now most will probably decide not to buy that feature, but this is no different than Camry, Accord, Altima touting their V6 HP numbers, when most buyers end up buying the 4 cyl. |
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Replying to: stlpike07 (May 19, 2007 10:37 am) The "winner" in any of these tests is almost 100% subjective and doesn't prove anything objective. It merely proves that under the right circumstances some people prefer the Fusion to the Camry and Accord. If you don't understand that then you're just biased.
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Replying to: akirby (May 19, 2007 1:24 pm) 
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Replying to: akirby (May 19, 2007 1:24 pm) Of course some people will prefer theFusion over Camry or Accord. Of course I am biased. I test drove both of those cars and picked the Camry. Someone who picked the Accord will be biased toward accord, just as someone who picked the Fusion will be biased toward the fusion. That is normal in my opinion. Who wants to think or feel like they made the wrong decision purchasing one of those cars? |
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Replying to: savetheland (May 16, 2007 4:39 pm) Wow, was that a slam or what? Yeah, my TCH may fit that description, but the SE I drove didn't seem like a car for the "older tired" crowd. I feel the real "vote" should come not from advertisements but from the buying public, who makes choices with the $$$'s they spend. How many Milans will they sell in 2007? Is that because they are limited production or because that's all of the "highly intelligent" people out there that are willing to purchase one? |
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