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Re: Transmission Help [jt8man] by dustyk
Jan 04, 2009 (8:55 am)
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Replying to: jt8man (Jan 04, 2009 8:16 am)

NT,
 
The Throttle Position Sensor is mounted to the left side of the throttlebody at a position in-plane to the end of the throttle shaft. There are three wires going to the sensor and two Torx screws are used to secure the sensor to the throttlebody that are easily removed.
 
On 42 & 46RE transmissions, the Anti-drainback Valve is located in the transmission cooler outlet line near the radiator. On 545RFEs the anti-drainback valve is internal, however, Chrysler uses a small filter ahead of it to prevent the valve from becoming clogged.
 
Best regards,
Dusty
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Glad I orderd manual xmission by bpeebles
Jan 04, 2009 (7:35 pm)
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After reading all of the appends about automatic xmissions... I am very glad that I saved $872 and just orderd the manual xmission. Plus, the automatic xmission needs to have frequent fluid/filter changes just to keep it going.
 
I never had one lick of trouble with manual xmission and it shifts just fine every time I push the lever to another position. The way I figure it... I got about a year of free fuel AND no xmission problems.
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42RE chatter by KarlHei
Jan 05, 2009 (10:15 pm)
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Grew up working on VWs Porches and lately GM. What I know of Son's Dodge got mostly from Internet so be gentle please.
 
1996 Dakota 3.9L 4WD LT235R15 tires on stock wheels. 75K miles. About 20% of the time on takeoff with more than the gentlest push on gas pedal, we get a very pronounced chatter, feels like a manual tranni clutch chatter or wheel hop. This will make your eyeballs dance. Backing off gas and the chatter stops. Have NOT tried to either floor it or leave gas down after chatter starts for fear of breaking something worse. Engine mounts seem OK in that revving in driveway, the engine moves maybe 1/4 inch. Shocks/springs seem OK as there in no lean and bouncing on the bumper gives one little bounce. I ran alongside the truck while Son drove looking for wheel hop, axle twist etc. Saw none, however, rear of transmission shook vertically about 1 inch, so replaced rear transmission mount. No effective change in the chatter. Seems to be a slight moan for about 2 seconds after chatter ends. Other than this, there are no issues with transmission operation at higher speeds or other gears. Previous owner is a friend, just drove to work and back, nothing exciting. All maintenance except tire changes was done at dealer. ATF looks/smells ok and is at the right level. Rubbing some between fingers feels more ‘grabbing’ than dexron/mercon, so that and dealer maintenance, I assume it is ATF+4. Planning on a drain and flush soon based on owners manual recommendations. Been reading past comments for last few weeks, saw nothing that seemed to fit, however any redirects to other posts will be gratefully accepted. Any/all comments and advice will be appreciated.
 
Vr Karl
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Help Please by dustyn
Jan 07, 2009 (6:07 pm)
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Replying to: KarlHei (Jan 05, 2009 10:15 pm)

I think I need to add transmission fluid to a manual transmission 1997 3.9L Dodge Dakota. The only problem is, I don't know where the mythical fill plug that the manual talks about actually is, other than the highly descriptive phrase "the side of the transmission." Does anyone have a diagram, or a better description for the location of this fill plug? Maybe the size of the wrench necessary to remove it? Thanks for your help.
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Re: Help Please [dustyn] by KarlHei
Jan 07, 2009 (9:26 pm)
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Replying to: dustyn (Jan 07, 2009 6:07 pm)

Sorry, I cannot truly help as I have only seen one automatic. Start with figuring out what tranni you have; should be in your paperwork if you still have it or might could figure it out from the VIN. Quick Google shows you likely have either a standard duty 5 speed called a NV4500 or a medium duty 5 speed called NV3500.
 
Google also says:
 
"DRAIN AND FILL PLUG LOCATIONS
The NV3500 fill and drain plugs are both located in the front housing. The fill plug is at the passenger side of the housing. The drain plug is at the bottom of the housing. "
 
Also found a pic at http://nv4500transmissions.com/parts-diagrams/case-assembly.htm
 
The home page is http://nv4500transmissions.com/general-information/index.htm This site has a lot of info on both trannies.
 
Note you want to put in transmission OIL not FLUID these are TOTALLY different animals.
 
Note that you will likely have to pump the oil up to the fill hole.
 
Good luck and happy hunting.
vr Karl
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Re: Help Please [dustyn] by bpeebles
Jan 08, 2009 (7:22 pm)
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Replying to: dustyn (Jan 07, 2009 6:07 pm)

I HIGHLY recommend that you put in RedLine MTL for fluid. It is perhaps the very best xmission fluid available on the planet. You will NEVER EVER have to change it again!
 
I replaced the factory-fill with MTL after the 1st year of purchasing my Dakota new. The shifting was immeaditly better even when ambient temparture was well below 0F.
 
As for your question about the fill plug.... as mentioned above, it should be pretty obvious on the side of the xmission case. There is nothing else there but metal.
 
According to my factory shop manual, There were 2 manual xmissions used in Dakota (NV1500 and NV3500) The drain plug on BOTH of these is NOT a WRENCH. Instead it is an inverted drive. (sticks IN....not out!) The NV1500 used SQUARE drive and the NV3500 uses HEX drive.
 
Just fill it up till fluid starts to ooze out of the fill hole. Approxamate capacities can be found on the internet. Just search for NV3500 and you will get 100s of hits.
 
BTW: The NV3500 was also installed in 1000s of Chevrolet trucks too.
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Re: Help Please [bpeebles] by dustyn
Jan 08, 2009 (8:06 pm)
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Replying to: bpeebles (Jan 08, 2009 7:22 pm)

Thanks for the help. I think I got it topped off.
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Re: 42RE chatter [KarlHei] by dustyk
Jan 10, 2009 (9:51 am)
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Replying to: KarlHei (Jan 05, 2009 10:15 pm)

Actually, in 1996 Chrysler was using ATF+3. It is probable that if the transmission was maintenanced at a Chrysler-Dodge dealer they used ATF+3 up to about 2000. After that they likely used ATF+4. If the vehicle was maintenanced at somewhere other than a Chrysler-Dodge dealership, I would be very suspicious that Dexron-Mercon was used. With only about 4-5 quarts needed at a transmission filter change, many, if not most, independents used Dexron-Mercon. The ones I know did.
 
Anyway, at first blush this sounds like a real bad case of torque converter chatter, but I would suspect you'd be getting some unusual noise along with it. Personally, I've never seen converter chatter that bad. I'm thinking this might be a problem in the clutch packs, or maybe a locked band or something. I'm afraid I can't offer you much advice on this one. A trip to a repair place is in order here, I think.
 
If/when you get this fixed, stop back and let us know what resolved the problem.
 
Best regards,
Dusty
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Re: Help Please [bpeebles] by dustyk
Jan 10, 2009 (9:59 am)
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Replying to: bpeebles (Jan 08, 2009 7:22 pm)

I would add to make sure the vehicle is on a level surface before filling.
 
Regards,
Dusty
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Re: 42RE chatter [dustyk] by KarlHei
Jan 10, 2009 (1:44 pm)
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Replying to: dustyk (Jan 10, 2009 9:51 am)

Dusty:
Going to change fluid/filter next, so we will see what happens. Thinking out loud, wonder if the transfer case could be guilty? Will change fluid there also. Should check shift linkage as well
 
My confusion with TC clutch is, why would it even be in the loop at 0-5 MPH? If it is not trying to engage, why would it chatter? Same goes for all clutches, none of them are doing anything. So, after going down this path, I think I have a clutch pack chatter while slipping due to wrong fluid, low pressure, varnish etc. etc. etc.
 
Thanks
Karl

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