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#384 of 403 Re: 2010 Accord Coupe Brakes [elroy5] by bug4

Oct 06, 2010 (8:31 am)

Replying to: elroy5 (Oct 05, 2010 2:12 pm)
Nope... definitely not a brake rider Your point is good and it is something I have mentioned to the dealership's mechanics every time I've been in for new brakes! Brakes warp because of heat (but see the note below )...so SOMETHING is causing heat!!! Friction is the only source of that heat! Unfortunately, the mechanics have checked the calipers every time and have taken them apart, lubricated the works and re assembled everything. I can understand their frustration, it seems that there is nothing wrong...and yet those rotors warp every 10-15k.
 
I did have a very interesting conversation with a Honda mechanic after my 2nd brake job. He asked if I was rotating my tires every time I took the car in for an oil change. I said yes. (I drive almost all highway miles and so I go 8k between oil changes). He explained a theory he has: If the wheel bolts are not evenly torqued every time the tires are rotated, he thinks the act of braking might put sufficiently uneven torque on the brake parts to stress and warp things. Interesting........ Of course, his dealership has always been responsible for torquing those bolts! I'd ben interested to hear if anyone else has heard this theory and if it holds any water.

#385 of 403 Re: 2010 Accord Coupe Brakes [bug4] by jmillerjmiller

Oct 07, 2010 (7:16 pm)

Replying to: bug4 (Oct 06, 2010 8:31 am)
It's recommended that you evenly torque lug nuts to avoid rotor warpage. Sadly the most I've seen shops go to lately are to use the torque extension bars on the air wrench, instead of the more accurate torque wrench for the final tightening.
 
Some vehicles seem to be very prone to warped rotors. I drove a co-workers company Chevy Uplander with less than 30k on it, and it shook like crazy on a moderate stop from high speed. On the other hand, I brake hard and often on a 2003 Astro AWD Cargo Van (due to transfers, this is the third one I've been a driver of), and haven't encountered a warped rotor issue (they are four wheel disc, believe it or not).
 
My 08 Accord EX-L V6 Sedan has a mild case, even though the dealer did the front brakes (pads and turn rotors) a few thousand miles ago for the same issue (gratis).
 
It just looks like the gen8 has some weak links in it - brakes, vcm vibes, and other design boo boos. About all one can do is ignore the issue unless its unsafe, fix fix fix, or trade. Could be the brakes are undersized for the amount of heat being generated due to the cars weight, or the factory rotors are too light to save weight and cost, therefore overheating. Note also that most modern car rotors can only be turned once or twice (some not even that) and be above the min thickness allowed.
 
I've had to get rid of more than one car due to issues the dealers couldn't fix. Two rain water leakers (one of which has a host of other ills), and one with an minor electrical issue the dealer was failing at fixing.

#386 of 403 Re: 2010 Accord Coupe Brakes [jmillerjmiller] by bug4

Oct 08, 2010 (8:16 am)

Replying to: jmillerjmiller (Oct 07, 2010 7:16 pm)
This is undoubtedly an unfair question, but I'd love to know what you think of my Accord problems and whether you would get rid of my vehicle. Unlike your car, the rotors on my car have warped EVERY 10-15k miles! I fist noticed the problem when I had only 8k on the car! Right now, at 50500 miles, it has been 16k since my last brake job (which included brand new front rotors) and the shaking is getting severe, rather than simply minor or irritating. And, I'm not driving the damn car down hills or doing ANY hard braking. They just continue to warp!!!
 
With Honda's participation, I will replace all 4 rotors and all the pads next week. Frankly, I'm tempted to get the new brakes, find a new car I like and trade the damn thing in while the brakes are still in good shape! Between the brakes, mediocre handling, absolutely insufficient low-end torque, road noise and, most of all, the 1st-graderesque automatic transmission, I'd LOVE to get ride of this nice looking p.o.s.!

#387 of 403 Re: 2010 Accord Coupe Brakes [bug4] by jmillerjmiller

Oct 08, 2010 (6:42 pm)

Replying to: bug4 (Oct 08, 2010 8:16 am)
Looked back at the earlier post - it indicates you have an 08 Accord EX-L with 50,500 miles. When you drive that kind of mileage, it's very hard to ignore things, as you get reminded every day. I am ignoring the shakes on mine at this time. Back in 1992 I bought a new Dodge Dakota extended cab, and traded it in 8mo/12k miles later - and got my first import car (93 Honda Accord EX 5sp, Rosewood Brown Metallic - first one was the best too).
 
So you've taken that big depreciation hit that happens on a new car, and are driving about double the 'average' yearly miles (i used to do that too before the company van).
 
If you intend to trade it, IMO now is the time. Once you get to around 60k miles it will get into the high mileage bracket and result in the dealer sending it to auction, instead of trying to retail it on the used car lot (could reduce the bargaining room on trade in).
 
Financially, it usually makes the most sense to keep and maintain the car until it is so old that it needs a very major repair equal to the book value, then scrap it for parts. Because you loose on the trade-in, and get hit with another new car's first year depreciation.
 
Personally, when I was driving that type of mileage, I traded every two years around the 50k mark. But that is due mostly to liking new cars, and luckily having a job that allows the luxury. Since getting a company van for commuting, I still am trading about every three years. My 08 Accord right now has about 21k at the two year/2mo mark.
 
SO check repair ratings and test ratings of what you might want to own. Check your wallet, budget, anyone else that puts money in the household till. Shop and see what kind of numbers you get, special finance offers, etc. Then factor in piece of mind and time spent at the dealership. Sometimes you get a good one, other times a lemon - i've had a few of each. And a few dealers inept at repairing anything that is not so obvious a blind person could see it.

#388 of 403 press request by kirstie_h HOST

Dec 12, 2011 (11:18 am)

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#389 of 403 Honda Brake Issues by budzinsk

Dec 28, 2011 (3:36 pm)

It seems like Honda's have brake issues inherently due to them being under engineered for the size vehicles they are built for. I have a 2010 Accord EXL, 4 door 4 Cyl, and the brake problems I have been having are unbelievable... At 12,000 miles the front rotors needed to be turned because of shimmy in the steering wheel. At 26,000 miles, the rear brakes were worn down to the wear strips and the front shimmy was back. The rear brakes I needed to pay for, but they paid for replacing the front rotors. Now the front brakes are shimmying again (car has 38,000 miles on it) and the dealer and Honda corporate will not cover it. For a car with 26,000 miles to need rear brakes is unbelievable. I had a 2000 accord with 182,000 miles on it and never needed the rear brakes done (they were drum brakes though). That same care had 2 sets of brake on it, that was it....
 
It is one thing for a car to have problems, they all do, but for the Honda to not stand behind it, that is poor. At least Kia has a 100,000 mile warranty and stands behind their cars... Honda has made some poor decisions recently, and it will catch up to them. We have been a Honda family for 22 years, and I am currently looking for a CUV and for the first time, it will not be a Honda. The Pilot has major brake issues also...
 
So I have a 2 year old car, that I can expect to replace the rotors every 12,000 miles... Crazy...

#390 of 403 Re: Honda Brake Issues [budzinsk] by nr8209

Jan 07, 2012 (12:53 pm)

Replying to: budzinsk (Dec 28, 2011 3:36 pm)
This is not a new issue. I have a 2003 Accord that gave horrible brake issues when new. It did settle down after rotors were replaced and discs twice before 12000 miles, but I have that familiar wobble on the steering right now at 77,000 miles again. My daughters LX2000 suffers the same issue - I thought it was the way we drove!!!

#391 of 403 Brake Problems by BobL242

Jan 29, 2012 (9:55 pm)

Has anyone had the brake problems with the 2011 or 2012 Accord? Thinking of trading in my current car and getting the Accord Sedan.Thanks in advance for any replies.

#392 of 403 Re: Brake Problems [BobL242] by amojeba

Jan 31, 2012 (1:45 pm)

Replying to: BobL242 (Jan 29, 2012 9:55 pm)
Family member just got a 2012 accord recently (I drive an 09 accord). I drove it, and it seems to brake better than my 2009. But only time will tell as to how long the brakes will last.
It usually takes a year or 2 to find out.

#393 of 403 Re: 2010 Accord Coupe Brakes [elroy5] by nzon

Aug 09, 2012 (10:56 pm)

Replying to: elroy5 (Oct 05, 2010 2:12 pm)
I love my 2009 Accord V6....however the brake pads and rotors are definitely a problem. I had a 1995 Nissan Maxima which I drove 400,000 kms before I had to replace the rotors due to minimum tolerance. I never had to have them machined and they never warped. I averaged about 140,000 kms per set of rear pads and 80,000 kms for front pads same driver "me" with same type of driving and driving habits. Downshift coming down hills to avoid heating up etc. etc. With the Accord and 40,000 kms and rear pads were totally worn out so I installed a good quality set myself at a cost of around $30. The fact that the rear pads went first is very odd as the fronts still had 60% left on them. Then at 60,000 kms the front rotors are warped which I have driven till 99,000 kms which has irritated me to the point of dealing with it this week. Again great car but I am pricing out some high end performance rotors for the front and some good pads as I know if I take the rotors to honda and have them machined they are just going to warp again. As I am installing the rotors and pads myself the cost should be less than $300 so overall as the car as not so much as had a light bulb burn out I am still happy. However honda should own up and contact all owners to offer to upgrade pads and replace any warped rotors with better quality ones and last but not least re-balance the distribution of the braking power more to the front which I suspect is causing the premature wear on the back. I am not even going to bother going to honda dealer as they will say it is probably because of my driving habits that this has happened....but I know it's the materials and engineering of the braking system.....

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