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#370 of 403 Re: 2009 Accord - 12k miles [elroy5]
by amojeba
Aug 27, 2010 (3:43 pm)
I appreciate your perspective, and you are right about every car company making lemons...some with fewer, some with more. And I wholeheartedly agree that although some people will complain about everything, that Honda generally had a good track record. I've owned japanese cars all my driving career, and my family has had several Honda Accords, all with no problems (including a 91, and a 2006) - all have / were excellent.
My 09 Accord, however, is a different story. Honestly I don't care as much about the brake problem itself (although it does peeve me), I'm more upset that they won't admit any wrong doing, saying "well that's what it is" and after being SUED, offer a lame one time $150 - and you're on your own from there. Not a good way to build customer loyalty in my opinion. A family that has 3 Accords (still own 2 currently) - that will never purchase another one again. Multiply that by thousands of households in America (hopefully who are smart enough not to buy again after this experience) is quite a few "loyal" customers they will be losing out on.
I disagree with you on 1 point - brakes ARE a safety concern and should be recalled based upon that. If you can't depend on a reasonable amount of Brake wear/tear, then it's considered a safety issue. We're not talking about how quickly the floor mats wear out, or if the paint fades too quickly. No one dies if the paint fades. But if the brakes fail to engage properly, then we have a problem.
#371 of 403 Re: 2009 Accord - 12k miles [amojeba]
by elroy5
Aug 27, 2010 (5:45 pm)
If your brakes fail to stop the car, that would be a safety issue, IMO. I think you would hear a lot of warning signs (squealing/grinding sounds) before early pad wear would become a safety issue. Have your brakes failed to stop the car, or does the car have other problems? It seems to me you are ready to condemn Honda for having to pay $50 for new pads at 12k miles. Seems like a minor issue at this point. Maybe I don't know the whole story.
#372 of 403 Re: 2009 Accord - 12k miles [amojeba]
by accordguy0325
Aug 28, 2010 (5:02 am)
"""A family that has 3 Accords (still own 2 currently) - that will never purchase another one again. Multiply that by thousands of households in America (hopefully who are smart enough not to buy again after this experience) is quite a few "loyal" customers they will be losing out on"""
After having multiple Honda's with few problems to abandon the entire brand due to this is just plain silly.
Having personally owned 3 Accords (two with the brake problem - an 08 and 09) I have no problem buying Honda in the future, nor does my mother who is on her third Accord (08).
My father traded his problematic Ford Ranger for a 2009 Ridgeline and I just purchased 2011 CR-Z.
When you compare Honda to other brands with their respective problems, known issues, resale value and long term reliability records -
Honda is still your best choice and will continue to be a sales leader.
#373 of 403 Re: 08-09 Accord Brake Problems - Present Day Honda [amojeba]
by smarty666
Aug 28, 2010 (2:04 pm)
You do realize that when you pay more for that BMW, your paying more for those faulty sensors and electrical glitches they are known for
Point is, every auto manufacturer has quality or technical issues, no matter how expensive they are, and hence issues TSBs, recalls, etc to try and fix them. Some, won't step up though when there is a widespread issue though.
Just b/c your paying extra for that BMW or Infiniti, Audi, etc doesn't mean your not going to have a problem. I've seen recalls already posted for several 2010 and 2011 BMW models for sensors.
Aug 28, 2010 (3:49 pm)
I think I get plenty of value with my '06 Civic...one doesn't need to buy a German luxo car to get value...this is a subjective quality at the very least. We have 4 Asian models in our current stable and I think we get tremendous value with them...so I don't understand your BMW statement. If my Civic had these brake issues, I'd be pissed off also but each model in a company is different, so making a blanket statement wouldn't work for me.
My last Nissan had such a problem that once the warranty ended, the car was gone. But my kid bought one last year & it's been flawless to date. Great car & fun to drive. I gave Nissan another chance and things are fine!
The Sandman
Aug 28, 2010 (3:50 pm)
I think I get plenty of value with my '06 Civic...one doesn't need to buy a German luxo car to get value...this is a subjective quality at the very least. We have 4 Asian models in our current stable and I think we get tremendous value with them...so I don't understand your BMW statement. If my Civic had these brake issues, I'd be pissed off also but each model in a company is different, so making a blanket statement wouldn't work for me.
My last Nissan had such a problem that once the warranty ended, the car was gone. But my kid bought one last year & it's been flawless to date. Great car & fun to drive. I gave Nissan another chance and things are fine!
The Sandman
#377 of 403 Re: 08-09 Accord Brake Problems - Present Day Honda [amojeba]
by thegraduate
Aug 30, 2010 (5:49 am)
It sounds like your vehicle has already had certain costs associated with it.
Actually, no. I just paid $48 for a transmission fluid change 64k miles. Air filters (cabin filter and engine air filter), 20 bucks,
30k and 60k miles. I put tires on the car at 50k, high performance Bridgestones at $576 mounted and aligned. Oil changes cost $30 every 7k miles or so. That's it, honestly. Does BMW pay for tires?
My maintenance costs have amounted to less than $1,000 in 57 months and 64k miles. I think that's quite good.
Aug 31, 2010 (4:20 pm)
Same with my '06 Civic...1 set of tires, front brakes, 5 oil changes with the 1st 2 being free, an air filter & a set of wipers in the last four years...a pretty inexpensive deal for a great car! Will not hesitate to buy another Honda...very satisfied customer!
The Sandman
#379 of 403 2010 Accord Coupe Brakes
by johngf1
Sep 27, 2010 (12:29 pm)
Anyone have info regarding squeaky brakes on a 2010 accord coupe. My were making noises for a while before I went to the dealer who said I needed all new brakes and the rotors needed to be resurfaced. BTW the car had 8200 miles when the work was performed! I'm not hard on brakes and hope this doesn't occur again. Dealer stated that the brakes must have been defective.