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Mazda CX-9, Concept Cars, Future Vehicle, SUV
#1106 of 1142 Re: cx-9 transfer case failure [jim213]
Feb 19, 2008 (6:07 pm)
Same here, got the diagnostic today from the dealer, same delay to order new transfer case. I'm happy to see that this has solved the problem for you and I can't wait to see the difference: I live in snowy Montreal, I have a 45 degree incline to my driveway in town and I drive up to my even snowier cottage every weekend and really need the AWD when I get there before the plow: steep inclines, twisty roads, no abrasives or salt!
Mine is a 2007 GT, bought used with 10,000 km (sorry, I'm Canadian!) on the ODO and previously driven ony by a female Mazda Sales Director, so unlike you, there may be other factors involved in the faulty transfer case, like wanting to impress the sales staff...
#1107 of 1142 Re: cx-9 transfer case failure [imamg]
Feb 19, 2008 (7:08 pm)
I know the post wasn't addressed to me but I had the same problem so I will answer if you don't object. Hope this helps other users and I hope we haven't uncovered a widespread issue with the AWD...
1) I had a hard time getting up my steep driveway after a good snowstorm (6 inches of fresh snow or more). I had a Rav4 with AWD before the CX-9 and it came through every time. I thought maybe the CX-9 being heavier, and with TCS, it started at a disadvantage in the same conditions, so I didn't give it much thought, especially given that when I turn TCS off and put it in Manual 2nd gear, I always make it up the driveway. BTW, I have brand new winters (Toyo G02) on 18 inch mags, so tires are a moot point.
What sealed the deal was when I got stuck in a 90 degree curve with a 20 degree incline in 8 inches of fresh snow with some ice under it. OK, not an easy test for any vehicle (no FWD that I know has ever made it up this particular section in these conditions, even with winter tires), but that's why I bought the AWD dammit! I tried 3 times, TCS off in 2nd gear, but my new AWD CX-9 felt like a heavy front wheel drive cow! When my father and brothers in law came to help get me up, they noticed that nothing but the front wheels were turning, so that confirmed my feeling. My father in law's AWD Chrysler Minivan was not having the same probems as my CX-9 (yes, very embarassing!) and I thought it was maybe due to a purely mechanical AWD vs the CX-9's electronically enhanced system? Shouldn't it be the other way around?
On the CX-9's AWD in general, I thought that maybe TCS and other electronics were the reason why the rear end didn't come out when I floored it (like my Rav4 used to do), but I suppose that this broken transfer case may be the real reason. I will post something on this once the repairs have been made (still lots of snow and twisty roads to test on!). Meanwhile, for other owners, perhaps this test can help you determine whether your AWD system is working properly or not: in fresh snow, TCS off, manual, 1st gear, drive forward slowly, turn the wheel slightly, floor it, and if the back end doesn't come out, surprise, you're probably not driving an AWD! The 4WD light will probably come on, but unlike the TCS icon, this is not necessarily a good thing (see below).
2) 4WD light flashed, but like TCS icon, I thought it was a good thing when it did, that is until I read the owner's manual and discovered that it could indicate a problem.
#1108 of 1142 Re: cx-9 transfer case failure [sizematters]
Feb 20, 2008 (8:13 am)
Thank you very much for your unadressed response! The information from you is very helpful.. I'm going to make an inquiry with my dealer rep (I am the proud owner of an 07 GT AWD, and the P.M. of a dealer)., and though I'm in Northern California (not much daily snow here ) but our family does make trips to the sierra and the last thing I want to experience is the failure of our AWD system... If I get any significant responce from him... I'll add it to our continued information.
#1109 of 1142 2nd Row Seat Tracks
Feb 25, 2008 (6:41 pm)
So folks who own these CX-9s what is your real world experience with
those 2nd row seat tracks.
My wife looked at those and has all but thrown the cx-9 out of the running.
She just shook her head and asked "What were they thinking?"
She's expecting them to collect french fries and pennies.
Is it as bad as she thinks.......?
#1110 of 1142 Re: 2nd Row Seat Tracks [mseningen]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Feb 25, 2008 (11:07 pm)
It's hard to tell from the photo I found, but they look a bit similar to the tracks in my Quest. But my tracks are about 3' long and go from the back of the front seats to about a foot or so from the rear hatch. I have carpet strips with plugs attached that fit in the tracks that I have to pop out to slide the rear seat back and forth, but the tracks do accumulate stuff. Rarely does anything keep me from sliding the seat back and forth though, and occasionally I'll stick a vacuum nozzle in there and clean the dirt out.
I guess one advantage is that they give you a bit more foot room since the seat isn't sitting on long brackets attached to the floor. If you don't move the second row much, a floor mat would probably keep most junk out of the rails.
#1111 of 1142 Re: 2nd Row Seat Tracks [mseningen]
Feb 26, 2008 (9:36 am)
Just to give you a baseline, I have 4 kids and 13k miles.
I just vacuumed the CX-9 the other day and was surprised that the tracks were not worse than they were. there was some light dirt in there, but nothing major. So far, no problems with the seats sliding back and forth.
#1112 of 1142 Re: 2nd Row Seat Tracks [mseningen]
Feb 27, 2008 (9:18 am)
We're about 8k in to the car... w/3 kids ages 7 to 16... we haven't had any issues at all with the 2nd row seats/tracks at all ... In fact I'm still pretty impressed with the design and function of the 2nd row all together... the ease of use getting into the rear seats etc...
#1113 of 1142 Re: Alignment Problem? [teofil]
Mar 27, 2008 (4:54 am)
I have same issue with my brand new 2007 CX-9 with 18" tires. I noticed on test drive but thought nothing of it because I purchased a mazda 3 last year and had same issue on test drive, but was completely gone after test drive. Well, I bought the CX-9, and immediately brought back for alignment. Tech said out of specs a little, but "these" sporty suspensions tend to turn one way or the other. Well, mine completely and always turns to the left. The alignment helped a little, but this car is NOT fun to drive because I ALWAYS have to hold steering wheel to the right. I'm taking back three times and filing a lemon law claim. That'll teach em.
#1115 of 1142 Mazda CX-9 Navigation System
May 22, 2008 (4:16 pm)
Does anyone know if the navigation system has been upgraded from the 2007 Model to the 2008 Model? I had heard that with the 2008 Model Navigation System you can view and control the Climate Control using the touch screen on the navigation system Screen just like you can control the Audio. The Mazda Website also seemes to indicate this. IN particular, it says:
A navigation system with touch-screen functionality provides real-time mapping, directions, points-of-interest, trip information as well as control and display of audio and climate control functions.
Can someone confirm?