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Re: Sport vs Touring [svofan2] by cmuniz
Nov 03, 2007 (12:17 pm)
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Replying to: svofan2 (Nov 03, 2007 7:02 am)

I was not worried about the 1 mpg difference, but simply wanted to know why 2 models (Sport vs Touring) of the same car (08 CX9 FWD) had different EPA mpg stickers. Was it tires? Was it gear ratios? Was it weight? etc,etc... Nobody seemed to know until I got an answer that sounded fishy. I know that most of us at these Edmunds' forums know more about the cars we are buying than the sales people at dealerships - that doesn't surprise me. What I don't like and will not tolerate from car dealerships are lies - this information that I got seemed to fit in that category and I simply wanted confirmation.
 
I suspected that the 17/24 MPG sticker was applied before the EPA changed their calculations and that the most current number should be 16/22. The answer that I got was just the opposite and implied that I WOULD GET 17/24 AFTER THE CAR WAS "REPROGRAMED".
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Re: Sport vs Touring [cmuniz] by svofan2
Nov 03, 2007 (3:57 pm)
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Replying to: cmuniz (Nov 03, 2007 12:17 pm)

..you are so right!...the sales people often are misinformed at best...and most of them will tell us buyers anything in order to sell a car...but in all fairness selling is how they make a living...my biggest problem is that the dealerships do not encourage long term employment for theirt sales force thus creating the "temp" sales personnel that either don't know anything,and show it well, or try to tell us lies with the objective of selling...after all when they get a "live one" they go back to the sales manager in order to effect the sale..
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Autobahn mpg by steve_ HOST
Nov 05, 2007 (7:46 am)
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I just moved an interesting mileage post over to the Real World MPG discussion. Check it out:
 
martin_m, "Mazda CX-9 Real World MPG" #23, 5 Nov 2007 6:37 am
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No 2008 Cx-9 Thread? by kbedwards
Nov 06, 2007 (7:37 am)
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And why do we have to go to the last page of the thread to post?! Craziest thing I have yet seen in any discussion forum (in terms of interface).
 
Just wondering where to post impressions of my 08 CX-9 after several months of driving, to help anyone looking at buying. I sure found a lot of value here when I was trying to decide, would like to add to the information.
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Re: No 2008 Cx-9 Thread? [kbedwards] by brutus22
Nov 06, 2007 (8:07 am)
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Replying to: kbedwards (Nov 06, 2007 7:37 am)

Hello,
 
Strange I have never seen any other way to post then at the end, it make sense to me and I post at a dozen other forums. Anyhow would love to hear your impressions, post them here please.
 
Thanks,
B.
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2008 CX9 review after several months of owning by kbedwards
Nov 06, 2007 (10:04 am)
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For anyone that is considering buying, please note that overall I love this vehicle, and have said as much in a couple of other forums here. This is more an addendum to those other mini reviews after I have owned the vehicle for several months now.
 
So the fact that I am posting some negative issues should not really sway anyone since out of all the models I looked at and considered, the CX9 still won out - i.e. every vehicle has flaws and negatives to go with the good stuff of course (and I would buy it again today if that helps).
 
I have the 08 CX9 GT, FWD with all the goodies.
 
Interior space:
 
Space has not yet been an issue, and my wife's aunt and brother are visiting our house for more than 2 weeks, so it has been tested multiple times, and vigorously in this dept.
 
We have EASILY packed the following into the CX9 (at the same time):
Mom
Dad
Uncle (3rd row)
Aunt (center 2nd row)
3 yr old in booster (2nd row)
6 mos old in carseat (2nd row)
85lb dog in back
stroller
 
Now granted, there was not much room for anything else, but the entry and exit times for all those beings/things was pretty impressive imo.
 
This is exactly why I bought the vehicle, and was pleased to find out that it delivered on that front.
 
Now if I had those two extra adults to fit on a daily or even continual basis, I would have bought a minivan, no question, but this was a once a year, maybe once every 2 yrs thing, so no big deal.
 
DRIVING:
 
Continues to impress. Handling is superb for a vehicle this size. Acceleration is decent. Transmission is butter smooth.
 
I have been wavering about the ride though. At first I posted a comment about how I thought people who decried the 20" wheels ride as too rough were being overly sensitive, but I can see the point now after some time.
 
Let's just say, in hindsight, if I had had a choice to choose the GT model with 18" wheels instead of 20" I would have done so. Not only because I imagine the cost to replace those things will be insane, but also for ride comfort of passengers. It is very European, in that you definitely feel the road more, which has positives and negatives. You get better feedback when driving, but you also get "feedback" when you hit a pothole. I will say when you do encounter a pothole, it recovers VERY quickly, but there is a pretty big jolt probably due to the low profile of the tires.
 
Road noise. Not as quiet as I had hoped on the interstate. More wind noise than anything else, as the cabin itself seems pretty well insulated. But like my Passat wagon, when you hit cruising speeds on the interstate, the wind hitting (side view mirror is what it sounds like) obstructions can really start to whistle. But again, this IS a Mazda, and not a Lexus, so there ya go (though they are pricing this model like it was a Lexus!) Not really a big issue or a dealbreaker at all, just a note.
 
FIT/FINISH:
 
The floor mats are the worst I have ever seen in any car I have bought. Just awful. I would probably go ahead and plan to buy some 3rd party (like Weathertech) or even Mazda's own all weather mats, even if you don't live in a climate that needs that, because the default ones are sooooo cheap looking - they are so lightweight and cheap that mine are already starting to pull off the floor at some of the corners. Real shoddy, Mazda, does not at all go with high quality material used in the rest of the cabin.
 
OPTIONS:
 
Sound:
I have barked about this already, but I am even more down on the sound system than I was previously. The Bose system they have with the "premium" audio package (I got the RSE) is pure crap, no other way to put it. Not sure if it's the head unit or the speakers, (I think the unit), but normal CD's (even after I have spent MUCH time tweaking audio settings) sounds just terrible. Overly boomy bass, NO mid range, ack. I can't say enough about how disappointed I am considering the extra cost.
 
OTOH, the sound of the DVD system is phenomenol. Surround is incredible and believable, so I tried some CD's in the DVD player and it seems to be somewhat better (because I have more options I think, to tweak). Still testing this.
 
Video on DVD is mediocre at best.
 
Have not tested headphones that come with it yet.
 
Locking/opening:
 
This still baffles me. Not sure why, but after many months, I still can't seem to get "the system" (and yes I have read the ENTIRE manual). The memory seats only work if you click the LOCK button on the remote entry key. If you use the button on the door, this does NOT work, so it kinda defeats the purpose of a keycard (not having to pull out the card when you want to open or start car).
 
I just think the whole system could be better, or better integrated at least.
 
Maybe I will try having the dealer reprogram to do the auto locking and unlocking thing. that would probably help out (it's off by default).
 
Mileage:
 
Wow, it's horrible! I mean, maybe not relatively, but for us, coming from 2 VW's (4 cylinder Passat and even a V6 GTI) we have to fill up the tank ALL the time. Not so much concerned about that as I wish they would have used a larger tank...just a pain to have to constantly stop for gas.
 
Climate control works great.
 
Bluetooth works great
 
Nav system itself is awful RELATIVE to personal units you can buy like Garmin, but will get you where you want to go (if you have a specific address). I would consider the NAV as just the MOST basic GPS you could find on the market - i.e it does the bare minimum (which is really all I need, so not really that much of a complaint from me)
 
It is not friendly to use, the interface is plain bad, the graphics are worse (though if you are just listening this should not be a problem). They should completely overhaul the NAV for 09 imo.
 
Love the adjustable headlights.
 
Love the quality of the leather.
 
Love the overall look, except for the chrome, which is completely cheesy imo (which is why I got a platinum one which contrasts with the chrome the least, so much less noticeable than say on the blue). That is completely subjective though, some probably like chrome everything.
 
Rearview camera - I use it a LOT more than I thought I would. Glad to have it.
 
Power liftgate: I thought I would use this a LOT more...but I find myself almost never using it. Maybe the wife does, not sure.
 
I guess if you have a hand free to be able to click on the keycard to close it remotely, or even able to reach up and push the button on the gate itself, you are probably able to just close it with your hand! Not sure why I thought this would be such a great feature, but again, my 5ft tall wife may beg to differ on that point.
 
Oh, I also had to take it in to dealer because it was pulling to left pretty severely on the interstate.
 
Overall impression after several months (1-10 scale): 8.5
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Re: Sport vs Touring [cmuniz] by onzie1
Nov 29, 2007 (12:18 pm)
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Replying to: cmuniz (Nov 03, 2007 12:17 pm)

Hello Cmuniz,
I was wondering the same thing. We purchased a FWD but the sticker on that said 16/22 while the stickers on the other fwd what we saw said 18/24. When I asked the difference the salesman said "in 2007 the fwd got better mileage than the 2008 because of the emission changes, I guess" So I'm not sure if the two you were looking at were different years or not but that could have something to do with it.

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