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#157 of 162 Re: oil sludge (worth reading) [madmanmoo] by flossit Sep 11, 2009 (5:28 pm)
Replying to: madmanmoo (Sep 11, 2009 5:12 am) 10,000 miles per oil change is CRAZY! they probably did the test with the car in a perfect running condition with the just the right temperture, right climate, humidity so on and so forth. Don't let that motor go bad folks, I rather do it every 5000-6000 miles ,pay $75 and save my motor and costly repairs. Vw is just like any other dealership, the longer you prolong it the worst it gets. My girlfriend has a honda accord and we called four dealerships, one said not to get the power steering fluid change and the other saids that we should do it after so many mileage. Go figure. I rather spend $60 than $600 . Replies to this message: shipo (Sep 12, 2009 6:15 am) madmanmoo (Sep 12, 2009 10:01 am)
#158 of 162 Re: oil sludge (worth reading) [madmanmoo] by flossit Sep 11, 2009 (5:32 pm)
Replying to: madmanmoo (Sep 11, 2009 5:12 am) No, I'm not against science. You have to be a savvy , smart consumer. Consumer can not be blind and led to believe everything you see or hear. What dealership do you work for??
#159 of 162 Re: oil sludge (worth reading) [flossit] by shipo Sep 12, 2009 (6:15 am)
Replying to: flossit (Sep 11, 2009 5:28 pm) "10,000 miles per oil change is CRAZY! they probably did the test with the car in a perfect running condition with the just the right temperture, right climate, humidity so on and so forth."   Here again you're using your personal and unfounded bias on the issue as a basis for making statements that are extremely non-scientific and highly inaccurate. Like it or don't, believe it or not, if you look over in the BITOG database for UOAs, you will find report after report after report that shows that, if anything, 10,000 miles on a late model VW engine with 502.00 certified oil in the oil pan is conservative.   "Don't let that motor go bad folks, I rather do it every 5000-6000 miles ,pay $75 and save my motor and costly repairs."   You're starting to become a scare monger just like the folks at that web site you posted a link for a week or two back. The fact is, if you use the proper oil, changing your oil at the five to six thousand mile mark instead of the recommended ten thousand mile mark won't add even a single mile of life to your engine (errr, that is unless you routinely take your car to the track and drive it at ten-tenths for extended periods of time).   "My girlfriend has a honda accord and we called four dealerships, one said not to get the power steering fluid change and the other saids that we should do it after so many mileage. Go figure. I rather spend $60 than $600."   Here again, the sixty bucks you'd "rather" spend won't save you from having to spend that six-hundred at any point in the future. Either the pump is going to fail or it won't, and the changing of the fluid won't alter that fact what-so-ever. Replies to this message: madmanmoo (Sep 12, 2009 10:01 am)
#160 of 162 Re: oil sludge (worth reading) [shipo] by madmanmoo Sep 12, 2009 (10:01 am)
Replying to: shipo (Sep 12, 2009 6:15 am) And on that note, I'm done. Since there is no logic in his posting, there is no sense in continuing the discussion.
#161 of 162 Re: oil sludge (worth reading) [madmanmoo] by bani Sep 12, 2009 (1:58 pm)
Replying to: madmanmoo (Sep 11, 2009 5:12 am) "Do you truly believe that a huge manufacturer like VW has not done extensive and rigorous testing on their engines?"   yes. the sludged engine fiasco proves it.   whatever testing VW does is obviously not extensive and rigorous enough.   and hey, now we have the DSG fiasco. again thanks to VW's 'extensive and rigorous' testing. Replies to this message: shipo (Sep 12, 2009 2:45 pm)
#162 of 162 Re: oil sludge (worth reading) [bani] by shipo Sep 12, 2009 (2:45 pm)
Replying to: bani (Sep 12, 2009 1:58 pm) "yes. the sludged engine fiasco proves it."   Ummm, well sort of. The thing is, VW did the bulk of their testing in Europe, and over there the engines had no problem with sludge, however, over here the exact same engine, running with the exact same oil, had a sludge problem on some engines. Which engines? Typically those driven for lots of short trips, and/or engines that had crap Iffy Boob oil used in them, and/or engines that were driven beyond the 5,000 mile recommended OCI for the one engine that VW had problems with (i.e. the 1.8T).   So, what did the "sludged engine fiasco" prove? That if you abuse your engine and/or don't properly maintain it, sludge can result.

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