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Re: i wouldn't wait that long [flossit]
by shipo
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Aug 31, 2009 (4:53 pm)
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Replying to: flossit (Aug 31, 2009 2:43 pm)
So basically you're ignoring all of the scientific and empirical evidence and going with what you think is right, regardless of what the engineers tell you. Like it or don't, there is zero evidence to support the notion that running a high quality synthetic oil (and oils that meet VW's 502.00 oil specification are oils that meet that criteria) ten thousand miles will cause an engine to sludge, errr, that is unless there is an underlying problem with said engine.
Best regards,
Shipo
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- #144 of 162
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call it whatever you want. i'm sticking to my good habit.
by flossit
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Aug 31, 2009 (5:36 pm)
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you can call it whatever you want and anybody out there can do whatever they want. like i have stated before, i'm going to continue doing the oil change every 3000-6000 miles. 
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- #145 of 162
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oil sludge
by flossit
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Aug 31, 2009 (5:38 pm)
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i guess i'm not a scientific type of a person
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- #146 of 162
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oil sludge (worth reading)
by flossit
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Aug 31, 2009 (5:40 pm)
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http://www.schleeter.com/oil-sludge.htm
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- #147 of 162
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Re: oil sludge (worth reading) [flossit]
by shipo
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Aug 31, 2009 (5:51 pm)
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Replying to: flossit (Aug 31, 2009 5:40 pm)
Regarding the schleeter site, it's full of partial truths, misstated facts, outright fabrications, and lots of scare mongering. Case in point, I've owned two cars on that list, and have performed oil changes with no less than 10,000 miles accrued since the last change (using a VW 502.00 certified oil). The engines in question currently have a combined 300,000 miles on them and are so clean on the inside that you'd swear that the engines had just been built. To take it one step further, I pulled the head off of one of the engines (when it had over 143,000 miles on it) chasing an elusive coolant leak (the leak turned out to be in a ten cent "O" ring elsewhere in the cooling system), and not only were things nice and clean inside, I could still see all of the honing marks on the cylinder walls.
In the end it comes down to faith, you have faith that frequent oil changes are going to prolong the life of your engine; many of us (me included) believe the scientifically and empirically derived evidence that shows that frequent oil changes with high quality synthetic oil is an absolute waste of time, money and resources.
Best regards,
Shipo
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- #148 of 162
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i'll con't doing what i've been doing for many years.
by flossit
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Aug 31, 2009 (5:57 pm)
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i stated my point and you did yours. people can do whatever they choose. i'm sticking to what i have been doing for many many years.
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- #149 of 162
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Re: oil sludge (worth reading) [shipo]
by madmanmoo
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Sep 08, 2009 (7:10 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Aug 31, 2009 5:51 pm)
I've always been confused by folks who refuse to believe what the manual states. VW says 10k miles before you need to get your oil changed as long as you are using their recommended oil. Why would the manufacturer purposely lead you astray?
And their argument always comes down to: "That's the way I've always done it." Logic and reason are not their best friends. 
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- #150 of 162
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Re: oil sludge (worth reading) [madmanmoo]
by shipo
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Sep 08, 2009 (7:50 am)
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Replying to: madmanmoo (Sep 08, 2009 7:10 am)
Some of us subscribe to the Church of 3,000 Mile Oil Changes, some of us (me included) think the Church preaches a bunch of hogwash. I guess that makes me an atheist. 
Best regards,
Shipo
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- #151 of 162
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Re: oil sludge (worth reading) [madmanmoo]
by bani
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Sep 09, 2009 (11:37 am)
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Replying to: madmanmoo (Sep 08, 2009 7:10 am)
probably because the last time people believed what the manual states, they ended up with sludged engines and expensive repair bills.
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- #152 of 162
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Re: oil sludge (worth reading) [bani]
by flossit
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Sep 09, 2009 (3:25 pm)
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Replying to: bani (Sep 09, 2009 11:37 am)
BANI,
you got that right.
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