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#37 of 145 Re: 2003 TLS Automatic Transmission Problem [dakineguy]
Oct 22, 2007 (5:08 am)
That was a very pleasant surprise...
You might not be as pleasantly surprised when the replacement breaks and the next one is on you.
I keep hearing that the rate of transmission failure of pre-2004 transmissions on the TL is "only 2%+/-". But anecdotally, of the dozen or so people we know that have TL's and/or pre 2005 MDX's, at least 3 or 4 have had at least one transmssion replacment and 2 have had 2 or more. One poor soul went through 2 failures on their their MDX and one on their TL, with the last MDX failure stranding his pregnant wife on the way to thier vacation house for 5 hours before Acura Roadside Assistance showed up. They have since sold both vehicles and have permanantly sworn off Acuras.
We own a 2004 TL 6-speed manual, the ONLY TL transmission I would ever own or recommend, even in a 2004+, both from a reliability standpoint and performance. Acura's "slushbox" automatics are clearly the weakest link in otherwise decent cars. Our 2005 MDX supposedly has a redesigned transmssion, but as it approaches the end of its warranty period, I am weighing the cost of an extended warranty with just trading it in. If the MDX came with a 6-speed manual, my wife would have me trade tomorrow.
In my opinion, anyone with a TL/MDX automatic transmssion out of warranty is playing Russian Roulette.
P.S. asv77 - rather than try to put a 2004+ automatic transmission in a 2000 TL, I would seriously consider selling the car. I know that wall is seriously dented from beating your head against it with 3 replacement transmssions, but why keep trying to knock it down? People go through less grief trying to keep a 1960's Ferrari running.
#38 of 145 Re: 2003 TLS Automatic Transmission Problem [habitat1]
Oct 22, 2007 (6:18 pm)
In my opinion, anyone with a
TL/MDX automatic transmssion car out of warranty is playing Russian Roulette.
Just some brands have more bullets in the magazine...
#39 of 145 Re: 2003 TLS Automatic Transmission Problem [laurasdada]
Oct 23, 2007 (9:12 am)
I'd partly agree with you, but one rarely hears of major mechanical malfunctions with Acura's relative to the engines, suspension, etc. The automatic transmission is clearly one of the biggest bullets in their magazine. All the electronic toys are probably little bullets as well, given that our MDX has had the Nav unit replaced twice in under 3 years and 40k miles.
On the other hand my 1995 Nissan Maxima at 155k miles has still yet to have any mechancical issues that go beyond what I would consider routine or long term maintenance.
#40 of 145 Re: 2003 TLS Automatic Transmission Problem [habitat1]
Oct 23, 2007 (9:19 am)
Oh, I agree (and hope that you are correct re: rare major Acura malfunctions!). I was just broadly noting that any car out of warranty is a potential repair invoice waiting to be paid... Odds are just, for example, more likely that an expensive repair will be required by a 6 year old MB C class vs. a Honda Accord.
I have the Non-nav TL so I probably have fewer bullets loaded. My bro's MDX has given him no issues that I'm aware of. Nor has my Dad's Nav TL.
#41 of 145 2004 Acura TL Time Reset and ABS light problem
Nov 02, 2007 (7:18 pm)
I have noticed that since last week or so whenever I start my car, it shows the time of 1:00 and then in few seconds it resets to current time.
Also, today after it reset the time, ABS, Brake and VSA lights did not go off.
When I stopped and restarted the car, those lights went off.
Any pointers? Thanks in advance for your help!
#42 of 145 1998 TL Transmission
Nov 26, 2007 (4:40 am)
I think I just dropped the transmission on my 1998 TL with 180k on it. Any ideas on what I may be in for with a repair bill?
#43 of 145 It's only going to get worse!
Mar 29, 2008 (7:18 pm)
I bought a pre-owned 2002TLS with 78,000. Three months later, the transmission went out and the dealer replaced it no questions asked. At this time, no one mentioned anything about the class action lawsuit that was filed against Honda/Acura for bad transmissions. Not long after the 2nd transmission was installed, my TL started jerking while driving at different speeds, as the transmission would slip in and out of gears. The check engine and VSA sensor lights would come on as the car continued to run very rough. The transmission continued to downshift on it's own for months.
Next comes the legal notice in the mail about the class action lawsuit shortly before my TL's warranty was about to end. Soon thereafter, I took my TL to the Acura dealer (who's name I won't mention), and their mechanic ended up erasing ALL THE CODES FROM MY COMPUTER. Then he said, "we'll give you a 3rd transmission as long as you pay for the labor since you're 1000 miles passed the warranty". I refused his offer. This was the start of multiple problems and a lot of unnecessary stress in my life. You're right about the "Russian Roullete" comment.
After reporting the dealer to the DMV for investigation, I find out they can (and are) selling these TL's with the poor/dangerous transmissions without a "legal disclosure". Unbelievable! And the only legal recourse the consumer has is to either hire a lawyer to sue for fraud or take them to small claims court. I've chosen the latter and also sworn never to buy another Acura again. Their not worth the money.
#44 of 145 Re: 2000 Acura TL Transmission Problem [asv77]
May 20, 2008 (1:41 pm)
We have a 2000 TL also, with 260.000 miles. Its on its third tranny. We dont deal with the Acura people when it comes to tranny work.(we get better warranties from a local tranny shop that the Acura guys recommended REALLY!) The story we are told is this. The housing that the tranny comes in has a sensor/computer attached to it that cannot be removed.This box is what causes the tranny to go bad when it basicly shorts out Can you say design flaw...I hope this helps you..
Jul 30, 2008 (11:30 am)
My 2001 3.2 TL is about 5,000 miles past 109k but I'm experiencing what HAS to be transmission issues. Any ideas how much of a fight I'll have to try and get them to work with me at the dealer to take care of things anyway? Does anyone have any experience of something positive their dealer's done given the widespread nature of the problem and the class action lawsuit? Seems like some have said things about paying for labor etc.
I'm a loyal customer to the dealer and have spent a signifciant amount with them in the past. Fingers crossed, going in the shop today to diagnose it
#46 of 145 Re: [flyer1965]
Jul 30, 2008 (11:54 am)
What kind of "symptoms" is your car experiencing? My '03 TL-S would occasionally do a "bucking" type thing when I was accelerating on to the highway. Others have said that their car would go nowhere when put into gear but finally go after repeated shifts from P to D.