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Acura TL Transmission Questions

87 messages,  Last post on Oct 20, 2009 at 3:16 PM

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Re: Third Gear [fundaddy22] by gmb2
Sep 19, 2006 (3:00 pm)
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Replying to: fundaddy22 (Sep 11, 2006 7:11 pm)

I'm bringing the car back to the dealer tomorrow.
Previously, the dealer said that he couldn't duplicate the problem.
If he still can't, I'll be taking the car to another mechanic and demand that Acura pay for my diagnosis and repair costs, assuming that the problem is identified and solved.
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@005 Acura TL - Manual Transmission Issues by fundaddy22
Sep 19, 2006 (5:15 pm)
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Mine's going back in on Monday so they can change the transmission fluid.
 
They told me Acura has a service bulletin out on this issue and that is what the bulletin tells them to do.
#20 of 87
Re: Shifting Problems? [habitat1] by jake3491
Sep 19, 2006 (6:45 pm)
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Replying to: habitat1 (May 16, 2006 3:02 am)

It seemed like the clutch was grabby but i also had a sense that the throttle response was slow and inconsistent. the problem was solved by the dealer reloading the ECU software! Drive-by-wire throttle response was the entire problem and it now responds normally.
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Re: @005 Acura TL - Manual Transmission Issues [fundaddy22] by gmb2
Sep 22, 2006 (12:51 pm)
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Replying to: fundaddy22 (Sep 19, 2006 5:15 pm)

The dealer put the "new" T-fluid in yesterday at no charge(not under warranty, but to "ensure customer satisfaction") and so far so good. All shifts are noticeably more crisp.
#22 of 87
Re: Third Gear [bobtomas] by bobtomas
Oct 19, 2006 (7:29 am)
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Replying to: bobtomas (Sep 06, 2006 1:15 pm)

OK. I took the car to the dealer and they said they couldn't reproduce the problem.
I then let them keep it overnight to try shifting when the transmission was cool.
Again, they claimed they couldn't find a problem. I pointed them to the August 2006
Acura Service News, last page that announces "Acura Precision Crafted MTF: It's Better
Than Before" and asked that they swap out the MTF and put in this new stuff. They
did that at no cost, not under warranty but to ensure customer satisfaction.
 
At first there was no difference but after ~200 miles the car does shift smoother in
all gears but the 2nd to 3rd shift is not as smooth as all other shifts. Its been about
2 weeks since the MTF change. I'm going to give it another 2 weeks and then decide
if I need to pursue the matter further with Acura.
 
Bob
#23 of 87
Clutch problem on my 06 TL, 7,100 miles only !!! by ahid
Jan 30, 2007 (12:24 pm)
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A couple of weeks ago, Jan 11, 2007 to be exact, I notice that my gears would not engage smoothly. I would shift and release the clutch and hit the gas only to have the car rev up and then rev back down to engage the gear. Called the Dealer and the technician over the phone thought it was a transmission issue. Made an appointment Jan 16th, to have the car checked. Got a call back from them saying they were certain it was the Clutch and needed my permission for a tear down, which I gave.
The dealer indicated that the clutch and flywheel had burn marks and upon inspection of the clutch assembly determined it was "driver history" that caused both the clutch and the flywheel wear. Possible causes. Riding the Clutch or just not knowing how to shift. Total repair cost $$2,300.
I have driven Manual for all the 27 years of my driving history (except for an occasional loaner/rental car) and I have never ever encountered a clutch issue.
Not satisfied with that decision, I called Acura client services to state my case and all they could tell me was it was a wear and tear item and that it is not covered under warranty.
Am I the only one in this? My vehicle as far as I am concerned is brand new. 7 months old and only 7,100 miles. Most of my driving is highway with very little stop and go. I just cannot believe that it was me that burnt the clutch and flywheel.
I contacted the BBB Auto Line as listed in the Warranty booklet, but all they can do is mediate between the consumer and manufacturer.
Can somebody please help, cause I am not sure what to do next!!
#24 of 87
Re: Clutch problem on my 06 TL, 7,100 miles only !!! [ahid] by frisconick
Jan 30, 2007 (1:26 pm)
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Replying to: ahid (Jan 30, 2007 12:24 pm)

Looks like your only option is small claims court
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Re: Clutch problem on my 06 TL, 7,100 miles only !!! [ahid] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 30, 2007 (1:42 pm)
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Replying to: ahid (Jan 30, 2007 12:24 pm)

Well I think there is room for a just compromise here. If Acura picks up the parts for the clutch and the labor to install, and you pick up the price of re-surfacing or replacing the flywheel, that probably puts responsibility where it belongs on both parties. (by allowing the clutch to continue to slip after being aware that it wasn't operating properly, you may have caused the flywheel damage).
 
If they go for that deal, I'd take it if I were you.
 
As an analogy, let's say your new car busted a radiator because it was defective, but that you decided to drive the car without coolant for 50 miles to get home. That might make you responsible for the engine damage, but not for the radiator.
 
I'm not trying to blame you for anything, only trying to analyze what you've told me from a distance.
 
TIP: If you offer a very reasonable compromise to the dealer, and accept a percentage of responsibility, and they refuse this compromise, this looks very good for you in Small Claims, IMO.
 
Of course, you must be careful that they don't say "Sure we'll compromise" and then charge you $2,000 for a flywheel.
 
#26 of 87
Re: Clutch problem on my 06 TL, 7,100 miles only !!! [Mr_Shiftright] by frisconick
Jan 30, 2007 (2:04 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 30, 2007 1:42 pm)

Great advice Pat, I jumped gun abit
#27 of 87
Re: Clutch problem on my 06 TL, 7,100 miles only !!! [Mr_Shiftright] by ahid
Jan 30, 2007 (2:08 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 30, 2007 1:42 pm)

Thanks for the reply.
The Service department initially thought it was a transmission issue and they gave me the earliest appointment available. They did not ask me to stop driving the vehicle. They determined it to be the Clutch only after they ran a complete diagnosis and further determine burn to the flywheel and clutch wear only after tear down.

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