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#6 of 330 Re: PLUGIN HYBRIDS [rorr] by jim314 Apr 06, 2006 (6:48 pm)
Replying to: rorr (Apr 06, 2006 10:30 am) People could get a kick out of having a plug in hybrid in the same vein as people getting a kick out of driving a 400 or 500 hp sports car that can do 1 g turns at speed.   When they got home they wouldn't take a cold shower, but rather one at exactly the optimum temperature with solar heated water coming out of an ultra low flow shower head which can be controlled to emit a near supersonic mist with a nifty white noise hiss.   When they have guests (or if they have had a hard day and think, "Screw the world!") they can switch the head to ordinary ultralowflow, but they don't feel guilty because all the grey water (including the shower) is conducted out to the xeriscaped grounds.
#7 of 330 Prius-2008 will be Plugin by yerth10 Apr 24, 2006 (12:47 pm)
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/04/toyota_ratchets.html#more   Prius-2008 will have 9 mile (14.5 km) plugin range. Replies to this message: cs1992 (Apr 30, 2006 1:39 pm)
#8 of 330 Plug in hybrids..the real sloution? by cs1992 Apr 30, 2006 (1:39 pm)
Replying to: yerth10 (Apr 24, 2006 12:47 pm) A 9 mile electric range is a start for the next Prius. Whether or not it can obtain highway speed on the electric motor alone remains to be seen.   If this is possible, it represents about a 25% decrease in the average fuel consumption of a many motorists (someone who travels ~12-13k miles per year).   Think of the possibilities with a range of 40 miles on battery power alone. (40x365=14600 miles). Someone, somewhere has got to be able to achieve this!
#9 of 330 What about photovoltaics? by nomorebenz May 03, 2006 (4:50 pm)
Think about it. Expand the battery capacity add a solar panel on the roof. Commute to work - use the charge. Work your shift - battery charges. Go home - use the charge. And for those rainy cloudy days, you have the ICE.
#10 of 330 100 MPG by bobbymcgee1980 May 15, 2006 (3:50 pm)
I think the 100MPG number for plug-in hybrids is misleading. You may only burn 1 gallon to go that hundred miles, but that one gallon of gas will not be what propels your car that far. Coal will be. Or natural gas. Or Uranium, or wind, or whatever your local electricuty company feeds into your grid. It's like putting a gallon of gas in the trunk of your electric car, and saying you're getting an infinite range on that gallon of gas. You're not. You're using a different fuel source.   Now, on a side note, here's my idea for energy independence. Offer an X-Prize type award, say $20 million, to the first carmaker, foreign or domestic, that brings to market in the US an all electric, battery powered midsize sedan that will run 150 miles 80 MPH on a single charge, can recharge in under 5 minutes, and can sell for a profit under $30,000. Granted, the technology to build this car does not exist today, but dangle a $20 million carrot in front of the carmakers' noses, and you'd be amazed at the innovations they can produce. Replies to this message: gagrice (May 15, 2006 4:44 pm) eaa (May 15, 2006 5:07 pm) gagrice (May 15, 2006 6:25 pm)
#11 of 330 Re: 100 MPG [bobbymcgee1980] by gagrice May 15, 2006 (4:44 pm)
Replying to: bobbymcgee1980 (May 15, 2006 3:50 pm) but dangle a $20 million carrot in front of the carmakers' noses, and you'd be amazed at the innovations they can produce.   Bill Clinton dangled a $2 billion carrot, and we got the EV1 from GM. They are all crushed and stacked in the desert. In all fairness the nickel metal hydride battery was a result of that carrot. As I am sure you know batteries are the key. So far nothing out there is practical for the range and power you are looking for. I imagine several 100 million more will be spent before we see the electric car we want. There are some $100k electric cars that are fast. Just no real range.
#12 of 330 Re: 100 MPG [bobbymcgee1980] by eaa May 15, 2006 (5:07 pm)
Replying to: bobbymcgee1980 (May 15, 2006 3:50 pm) They are coming soon. Milesautomotive is making a 200 mile per charge lithium battery electric for 28K. Check their website. http://www.milesautomotive.com/products_xs200.html   Also ACPropulsion is converting Scions later in 2006, 100,200 or 300 mile range all electric.   Also EDrive and Hymotion are adding lithium batteries to the 2004 and newer Prius for plugin hybrids.   If you have grid tied solar like me your super clean, if not use off peak dirty grid and use the excess power they have to almost give away off peak. It's cleaner than anything out of a gas car. Replies to this message: gagrice (May 15, 2006 6:25 pm)
#13 of 330 Re: 100 MPG [eaa] by gagrice May 15, 2006 (6:25 pm)
Replying to: eaa (May 15, 2006 5:07 pm) Sounds promising. Their current EV would not be allowed in CA on most city streets. I have tried to buy an electric vehicle to run my errands. All the stores are less than 3 miles from home. Problem is the street getting there is posted 45 MPH. CA only allows these electric vehicles on 35 MPH or less streets. Just like the hassle ZAP has had getting the Smart car into the USA. They have to get by a bunch of ignorant regulations imposed by the EPA.   I was ready to buy this little beauty and it will not be allowed in my area of CA. If you are not a big player with lots of lobby money forget selling your product in this state.
#14 of 330 EV-1 by bobbymcgee1980 May 23, 2006 (1:59 pm)
Not all the EV-1's ended up crushed and stacked in the desert. One is on display at the Smithsonian in DC. Sweet looking little car. Too bad there's no way for a private owner to get ahold of one. It would make for a great collector car in 20 or 30 years   Bill Clinton (We'll give him partial credit for effort) dumped a lot of government research money into electric cars. What I'm talking about is more of a prize to be awarded only when the industry builds a practical one, not a windfall of cash to be spent whether the desired results are attained or not. That being said, investing squillions of dollars into research like that still isn't a bad idea. Replies to this message: rorr (May 24, 2006 5:34 am) tpe (May 24, 2006 3:23 pm) gagrice (May 24, 2006 4:20 pm) tpe (May 25, 2006 3:55 am) and 42 more... stevedebi (May 25, 2006 10:06 am)
#15 of 330 Re: EV-1 [bobbymcgee1980] by rorr May 24, 2006 (5:34 am)
Replying to: bobbymcgee1980 (May 23, 2006 1:59 pm) "What I'm talking about is more of a prize to be awarded only when the industry builds a practical one..."   The prize WILL be awarded when industry builds a practical one. It will come in the form of profits from sales.

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