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Re: War of the Wires [gagrice] by reddroverr
Mar 09, 2007 (3:33 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Mar 09, 2007 2:52 pm)

where do you live, the north pole?
 
I think the low temp stated was -26F
 
I checked a little with yahoo weather:
 
NYC never gets within 20 degrees of that.
 
Chicagos record low temp is -24
 
Fargo ND low average is a -2 in January. Their records listed do get there...and more..down to a figid -39.
 
So what.. less that 5% of the population (guess) ever has to give this a second thought?
 
I have never lived in that cold a place. Don't they have heaters for regular batteries? A garage or a small auxilliary heater would seem to do the trick if you really wanted to go out in such weather. But more than likely suv and 4wd pickup will still carry the day for a long time in those places.
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Re: War of the Wires [reddroverr] by tpe
Mar 09, 2007 (3:43 pm)

Replying to: reddroverr (Mar 09, 2007 1:54 pm)

If these claims are valid,
 
They are valid. They've been verified by independent sources. The only thing left to be proven is longevity. Not number of cycles but actual calendar life. Then, as you state, the cost needs to come down, a lot.
 
I read a report a few days ago about a battery manufacturer in China called Advanced Battery Technology. I'm pretty sure this was a typo but it stated that this company was awarded a contract to provide 3,000 battery packs to be used in 3,000 electric garbage trucks for the 2008 Bejing Olympics. That's not the part I question. What didn't seem right is that the total value of this contract was $10 million. That's only a little over $3k per battery pack.
 
Here's the link. I have no idea what marketWIRE is and it could be nothing but a PR firm.
 
http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=221353
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Re: War of the Wires [tpe] by reddroverr
Mar 09, 2007 (5:11 pm)

Replying to: tpe (Mar 09, 2007 3:43 pm)

Just being conservative, tpe.
 
I am almost positive that in a few years we will see practical and affordable storage tech.
 
I don't know about the china thing. These could be little trucks not much bigger than a golf cart for all we know.
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Re-Volting by reddroverr
Mar 26, 2007 (12:10 pm)
"...The Volt may never get built.
 
Production depends on advances in battery technology that could be years away. The uncertainty led to intense debate within GM over whether it was wise to show the Volt in Detroit. And now that the world is waiting for GM to deliver what could be the biggest environmental breakthrough so far this century, company officials are actively trying to temper expectations.
 
The magnitude of GM's challenge was evident recently when it called journalists to explain the technological hurdles facing the Volt project - and reiterate that it can't guarantee the futuristic car will ever hit the road.
 
"The pressure is intense," Nick Zielinski, the Volt's chief engineer, said at the event. "

 
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_5510138?source=rss
#163 of 330
How about a Plug-in Diesel Sprinter? by larsb
Mar 27, 2007 (5:41 am)
DC wants it to work:
 
Diesel and PHEV together
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Re: Re-Volting [reddroverr] by tpe
Mar 27, 2007 (9:15 am)

Replying to: reddroverr (Mar 26, 2007 12:10 pm)

If anything I think GM has become more definitive about delivering the Volt. When it was introduced in Detroit there was no talk about a date when it would be available. Now GM states it will have a working prototype by the end of the year and a tentative date for production of 2010. It doesn't seem to me that they are trying to temper expectations.
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Re: Re-Volting [tpe] by reddroverr
Mar 27, 2007 (11:57 am)

Replying to: tpe (Mar 27, 2007 9:15 am)

""And now that the world is waiting for GM to deliver what could be the biggest environmental breakthrough so far this century, company officials are actively trying to temper expectations.
The magnitude of GM's challenge was evident recently when it called journalists to explain the technological hurdles facing the Volt project - and reiterate that it can't guarantee the futuristic car will ever be produced""
 
This from the article dated 3-24-07. I hope you are right. I hope they are committed to push through any difficulties. It would seem that the prize is so large that it would be in their best interests to do so.
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Re: How about a Plug-in Diesel Sprinter? [larsb] by reddroverr
Mar 27, 2007 (11:58 am)

Replying to: larsb (Mar 27, 2007 5:41 am)

Thanks, larsb. That is great!
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It would be great to have. by fordenvy
Mar 29, 2007 (5:28 pm)
0 emissions for the commuter, that is if your under nuclear power such as I am. I hope it works, because if somehow the shipment of oil happens to be halted by the middle-east, then our economy will still be able to function, on top of that we can save the world to those that think that, my opinion is that its too late to save the world. I've got a start on being independent of oil, if oil gets halted then I have a flex-fuel Explorer with E-85 a couple of miles away.
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It would be great to have. by fordenvy
Mar 29, 2007 (5:27 pm)
0 emissions for the commuter, that is if your under nuclear power such as I am. I hope it works, because if somehow the shipment of oil happens to be halted by the middle-east, then our economy will still be able to function, on top of that we can save the world to those that think that, my opinion is that its too late to save the world. I've got a start on being independent of oil, if oil gets halted then I have a flex-fuel Explorer with E-85 a couple of miles away.

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