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Replying to: reddroverr (Mar 09, 2007 1:54 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 09, 2007 2:52 pm) Well they can't tell them but they can inform them. Informing a prospective car buyer that this particular vehicle wouldn't be suitable for Alaska will rarely be a deal killer. The type of areas that these EVs wouldn't work are probably dominated by 4-wheel drives. 4-wheel drives probably don't sell too well in Southern California. A particular vehicle type does not have to satisfy 100% of the market to be viable. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 09, 2007 2:52 pm) I think the low temp stated was -26F I checked a little with yahoo weather: NYC never gets within 20 degrees of that. Chicagos record low temp is -24 Fargo ND low average is a -2 in January. Their records listed do get there...and more..down to a figid -39. So what.. less that 5% of the population (guess) ever has to give this a second thought? I have never lived in that cold a place. Don't they have heaters for regular batteries? A garage or a small auxilliary heater would seem to do the trick if you really wanted to go out in such weather. But more than likely suv and 4wd pickup will still carry the day for a long time in those places. |
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Replying to: reddroverr (Mar 09, 2007 1:54 pm) They are valid. They've been verified by independent sources. The only thing left to be proven is longevity. Not number of cycles but actual calendar life. Then, as you state, the cost needs to come down, a lot. I read a report a few days ago about a battery manufacturer in China called Advanced Battery Technology. I'm pretty sure this was a typo but it stated that this company was awarded a contract to provide 3,000 battery packs to be used in 3,000 electric garbage trucks for the 2008 Bejing Olympics. That's not the part I question. What didn't seem right is that the total value of this contract was $10 million. That's only a little over $3k per battery pack. Here's the link. I have no idea what marketWIRE is and it could be nothing but a PR firm. http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=221353
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Replying to: tpe (Mar 09, 2007 3:43 pm) I am almost positive that in a few years we will see practical and affordable storage tech. I don't know about the china thing. These could be little trucks not much bigger than a golf cart for all we know. |
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"...The Volt may never get built. Production depends on advances in battery technology that could be years away. The uncertainty led to intense debate within GM over whether it was wise to show the Volt in Detroit. And now that the world is waiting for GM to deliver what could be the biggest environmental breakthrough so far this century, company officials are actively trying to temper expectations. The magnitude of GM's challenge was evident recently when it called journalists to explain the technological hurdles facing the Volt project - and reiterate that it can't guarantee the futuristic car will ever hit the road. "The pressure is intense," Nick Zielinski, the Volt's chief engineer, said at the event. " http://www.denverpost.com/ci_5510138?source=rss
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DC wants it to work: Diesel and PHEV together
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Replying to: reddroverr (Mar 26, 2007 12:10 pm)
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Replying to: tpe (Mar 27, 2007 9:15 am) The magnitude of GM's challenge was evident recently when it called journalists to explain the technological hurdles facing the Volt project - and reiterate that it can't guarantee the futuristic car will ever be produced"" This from the article dated 3-24-07. I hope you are right. I hope they are committed to push through any difficulties. It would seem that the prize is so large that it would be in their best interests to do so. |
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Replying to: larsb (Mar 27, 2007 5:41 am) |
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