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I realize that E85 issues are dependent upon where you live and if you will ever get E85 Ethanol in your state. many state governments are set against any relief from "big oil" and could care less about solving energy problems. However, many states are problem solvers and are working together to try to implement a national policy. I ran across these comparative tax charts that may be interesting to those who care. Nothing in here about E85 issues, but creating more jobs generally lowers taxes. State-Local Tax Burdens, Calendar Year 2005. Rank State State/Local taxes as % of per capita income U.S. average is 10.10% 1 Maine 13.00% 2 New York 12.00% 3 Hawaii 11.50% 4 Rhode Island 11.40% 5 Wisconsin 11.40% 6 Vermont 11.10% 7 Ohio 11.00% 8 Nebraska 10.90% 9 Utah 10.90% 10 Minnesota 10.70% 11 Arkansas 10.50% 12 Connecticut 10.50% 13 West Virginia 10.50% 14 New Jersey 10.40% 15 Kansas 10.40% 16 Louisiana 10.40% 17 Maryland 10.30% 18 Indiana 10.30% 19 Kentucky 10.30% 20 California 10.30% 21 Arizona 10.20% 22 Michigan 10.10% 23 Wyoming 10.10% 24 Washington 10.00% 25 Iowa 10.00% 26 Mississippi 10.00% 27 Idaho 10.00% 28 North Carolina 10.00% 29 New Mexico 9.90% 30 Illinois 9.80% 31 Georgia 9.80% 32 Massachusetts 9.80% 33 South Carolina 9.70% 34 Virginia 9.70% 35 Pennsylvania 9.70% 36 Oregon 9.60% 37 Colorado 9.50% 38 Nevada 9.50% 39 Montana 9.50% 40 Oklahoma 9.40% 41 Missouri 9.40% 42 North Dakota 9.40% 43 Texas 9.30% 44 Florida 9.20% 45 South Dakota 8.80% 46 Alabama 8.70% 47 Tennessee 8.30% 48 Delaware 8.00% 49 New Hampshire 7.40% 50 Alaska 6.40 |
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Replying to: tpe (Jun 07, 2006 3:34 am) |
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Interest in E85 increases as prices dropby Mark Steil, Minnesota Public Radio April 28, 2005 E85 is selling for 55 cents less than gasoline at the Pump 'N Pak in Luverne. (MPR Photo/Mark Steil) Ethanol producers see opportunity in the current siege of high gas prices. They're selling 85 percent ethanol far below the price of gasoline, as much as 80 cents a gallon cheaper. The move has increased sales, though the fuel known as E85 is still a small part of the overall market. Luverne, Minn. — The price sign at the Pump 'N Pak convenience store in Luverne in southwest Minnesota grabs the eye. Regular gasoline sells for $2.09 a gallon. In fact all the fuels listed are over $2 a gallon except one. Manager Lila Sudenga says E85 is $1.54 a gallon. "Soon as that gas price hit over $2 a gallon people were looking for a more affordable way to get back and forth to work," says Sudenga. "We had it priced at anywhere from 50 to 60 cents lower than super unleaded. And our sales really increased." E85 sales have tripled since the station lowered its price last month. E85 has always been priced below gasoline, partly because it delivers fewer miles per gallon. Studies show as much as 10-15 percent less. Sudenga says the price gap has widened as gasoline prices have increased. "When people pull up to that pump, if they don't realize it's E85 and they see that price difference, they definitely come in and ask what's going on," Sudenga says. That can take some explaining.
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Replying to: seniorjose (Jun 07, 2006 6:09 am) Per EPA estiments its 20-33% depending on the vehicle. Current Ford Taurus FFVs have an 18-gallon fuel tank and will normally travel 350 miles between refuelings. But it will go 125 miles further on a tank of regular gas.
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Researchers at Iowa State University are developing a mold-based process that breaks down the cellulosic corn fiber that is a by-product of the wet-milling process into sugars that can then be fermented into fuel ethanol. The initial goal is to create a sequential biorefinery that can tap into what currently are the waste byproducts of corn processing. The process may be suitable for all ligno-cellulosic biomass material however. The process has a total reducible sugar yield of 12%. The ethanol yield with subsequent Saccharomyces fermentation is 4%. Potentially, we should be able to make 2x more sugar and 3x more ethanol per mass of fiber. We still need to improve on what we got so far. It took two years to get where we are now and the most important part happened suddenly in the last month. I believe this is a breakthrough. But I also want to caution that we need to do more research. —Prof. van Leeuwen |
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Jun 07, 2006 7:31 am)
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Replying to: seniorjose (Jun 07, 2006 7:18 am) See E85 prices TODAY: Current E85 Prices Notice outside the corn states E85 is the same as unleaded regular. Only government agencies would pay that price. It is easy when you are spending other people's money. |
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VW is dropping all versions of it's 2007 diesel engines in North America due to their inability to meet US standards. Daimler/Cgrysler is also dropping their diesel engine version of the Jeep Liberty in 2007. |
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Replying to: seniorjose (Jun 07, 2006 7:42 am) Have you checked the EPA website? I have not seen a single site you have posted that can verify your claims for E85. It is on average 25% less mileage...... Who discredited the EPA except for the over rated hybrids? |
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E-85 fuel is available at stations in locations in many states. In Kansas, you can purchase E-85 fuel for your flexible fuel vehicle at several locations. Kansas State Tax Credit to FFV Owners Who Use E85 Fuel People who buy new flexible fuel vehicles and use E85 can claim a state tax credit. An individual who purchases a new FFV has from the date of purchase through that calendar year and the next calendar year to purchase 500 gallons of E85. They can then submit those receipts with their taxes and receive a $750 tax credit. Stay tuned: At least 20 New E85 Locations to Open in Kansas The Kansas Corn Commission and United Bio Energy have partnered with the National Ethanol Vehicle Coalition to add 20 more E85 stations in Kansas.
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