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Re: got a question on ffv [jim314] by gagrice
Jun 03, 2006 (2:52 pm)

Replying to: jim314 (Jun 03, 2006 1:09 pm)

It has nothing to do with octane rating. It has to do with BTUs of energy. An engine that runs on Premium gas does not get better mileage than one using regular.
 
1 U.S. Gallon of gasoline contains 114,132 btu
1 U.S. Gallon of no. 2 diesel fuel contains 138,000 btu
1 U.S. Gallon of ethanol contains 76,000 btu
1 U.S. Gallon of methanol contains 56,800 btu
1 U.S. Gallon of propane contains 84,500 btu
1 U.S. Gallon of compressed natural gas contains 19,800 btu

 
BTU values
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Re: got a question on ffv [snakeweasel] by seniorjose
Jun 03, 2006 (4:24 pm)

Replying to: snakeweasel (Jun 03, 2006 10:03 am)

I have driven with E10 at 89 Octane and regular 87 Octane gas that is 10 cents a gallon more expensive than E10/gasoline mix...I drive it every day and have for the last three years. Iowa drivers like E10 as 80% of them use it instead of the lower octane regular gas. Most drivers here in Iowa do NOT notice any difference,..we are talking about NOW, not somebody trying to kill some future use of ethanol. We live it every day..NOW. The best answer is that we can slowly wean ourselves off a bit of oil...South America is now trying to hold us up on oil supplies an oil prices. It is time to do a kick start for the rest of the country to see if they can handle it...if not, then we will see many areas look like ghost towns.
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Gasohol bad for our highways!!! by gagrice
Jun 03, 2006 (4:51 pm)
Facts not fiction!
 
This all came about in 2002 before our fine Congress started getting the big lobby checks from Agri Business. A bunch of flip floppers they are.
 
We anticipate that there will be an increasing use of gasohol fuels, and corresponding reductions in gasoline consumption as States ban the use of MTBE (methyl tertiary-butyl ether) as a fuel additive. Since the Highway Account receives 15.44 cents per gallon of gasoline but only about 8 cents per gallon of gasohol, increases in gasohol use at the expense of gasoline consumption will result in a net reduction in Highway Account receipts. On net, for every billion gallons of gasohol sold in place of gasoline, Highway Account receipts are approximately $78 million lower. Approximately two-thirds of this negative effect on Highway Account receipts from the substitution of gasohol for gasoline is due to the ethanol tax incentive (currently 53 cents per gallon of ethanol, which at a 10 percent blend is 5.3 cents per gallon of gasohol). The remainder is attributable to the fact that the law dedicates a portion of gasohol tax receipts (typically 2.5 cents per gallon) to the General Fund.
 
http://epw.senate.gov/107th/Lyon_021102.htm
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Iowa approves more E85 NOW by seniorjose
Jun 05, 2006 (7:28 am)
NEVC National Ethanol Vehicle Coalition -- Iowa Governor Tom Vilsack signed a bill into law that is touted as being the most aggressive renewable fuels legislation in the country. The legislation is intended to boost availability of ethanol and biodiesel throughout the state. A 25% Iowa Renewable Fuels Standard (RFS) is the centerpiece of the comprehensive renewable fuels bill. With the Governor’s signature, Iowa is on the path to be the number one renewable fuels consuming state,” stated Iowa Renewable Fuel Associaiton’s (IRFA) Executive Director Monte Shaw. “ Iowa is already the ethanol and biodiesel production leader. Now we have the most aggressive renewable fuels usage policy of any state as well. IRFA has already been contacted by several states who want to follow in Iowa’s footsteps.”
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Ethanol is easy on the Environment by seniorjose
Jun 05, 2006 (7:33 am)
National Ethanol Vehicle Coalition (NEVC
 
What is E85?
 
E85 is the term for motor fuel blends of 85 percent ethanol and just 15 percent gasoline. E85 is an alternative fuel as defined by the U.S. Department of Energy. Besides its superior performance characteristics, ethanol burns cleaner than gasoline; it is a completely renewable, domestic, environmentally friendly fuel that enhances the nation's economy and energy independence.
 
Today, the U. S. imports more than half of its oil, and overall consumption continues to increase. By supporting ethanol production and use, U.S. drivers can help reverse that trend. 85% ethanol can reduce pollution. Government tests have shown that E85 vehicles reduce harmful hydrocarbon and benzene emissions when compared to vehicles running on gasoline. E85 can also reduce carbon dioxide (CO2), a harmful greenhouse gas and a major contributor to global warming.
 
Although CO2 is released during ethanol production and combustion, it is recaptured as a nutrient to the crops that are used in its production. Unlike fossil fuel combustion, which unlocks carbon that has been stored for millions of years, use of ethanol results in low increases to the carbon cycle.
 
Ethanol also degrades quickly in water and, therefore, poses much less risk to the environment than an oil or gasoline spill.
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E85 dispenser - NOW by seniorjose
Jun 05, 2006 (7:37 am)
National Ethanol Vehicle Cooperative (NEVC) - Dresser Wayne has introduced the industry’s first approved E85 dispenser – the Dresser Wayne Vista ™ 387. The pump is both approved by Underwriters Laboratories (UL) and the Weights and Measures Division of the National Institute of Standards and Technology.
 
The corrosive nature of the higher blend of alcohol in E85 requires its equipment to be different to that of gasoline equipment. Dresser Wayne is partnering with CleanFUEL USA, both members of the NEVC, to offer this certified E85 compatible dispenser to retailers.
 
“In bringing certified dispensers to the market, we are able to offer retailers access to the E85 market with the reliability and investment protection of industry certification. At a time when legislation is providing significant economic incentives to E85 retailers, Dresser Wayne feels it is especially important to offer proven and certified equipment,” said Scott Negley, Dresser Wayne’s director of product management.
 
“We are very excited to partner with Dresser Wayne in offering this E85 certified dispenser,” commented Curtis Donaldson, President of CleanFUEL USA and Chairman of the NEVC. “This has been a milestone in the ethanol industry and CleanFUEL USA is proud to be a part of it. I would like to thank the NEVC for their assistance in this achievement.” The NEVC provided funds that assisted in the certification process.
 
Dresser Wayne’s Ovation ® is planned to be certified in months to come.
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Farmer Coops in Missouri offer E85 NOW by seniorjose
Jun 05, 2006 (7:46 am)
National Ethanol Vehicle Coalition (NEVC) - Two Farmer Owned Coops Offer E85 Affordably in Missouri
  
Jefferson City , MO - MFA Oil Company and Mid-Missouri Energy announced today plans to offer E85 at a cost of 20 percent less than regular unleaded at many fueling stations across Missouri. The announcement was made at MFA Oil Company headquarters in Columbia, Missouri – the city which holds the most E85 stations per capita in the nation.
 
“Our goal is to help educate consumers so that E85 becomes their fuel of choice,” said Jerry Taylor, MFA Oil Company president.
 
Mid-Missouri Energy is working with MFA Oil to supply the product at a rate that will allow the retailer to sell it at this low cost. MFA Oil now offers E85 at 25 Break Time and Petro-Card 24 locations across the state and plans on doubling the number in months to come. The NEVC has assisted in the opening all MFA Oil E85 fueling sites.
 
MFA Oil will also offer E85 for $1.85 per gallon. One can also register to win a new flexible fuel vehicle Ford F-150 at each MFA Oil station. The vehicle will be given away at the Fire in the Sky celebration on July 4th in Columbia.
 
“We are pleased to see two members of our coalition, MFA Oil Company and Mid-Missouri Energy, work closely to help Missourians obtain this renewable, locally grown fuel at a competitive price,” commented Phil Lampert, Executive Director of the NEVC. “We hope that this model where ethanol producers and ethanol retailers work in concert can be duplicated across the nation, thereby; ensuring that the final consumer will be able to take advantage of E85 priced 20 percent less than regular unleaded.”
 
There are currently 58 E85 sites that are open or soon will be open in the state of Missouri. For a complete listing of these sites and all across the nation, visit www.E85Fuel.com.
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GM offers vehicles to use E85 NOW by seniorjose
Jun 05, 2006 (7:56 am)
GM is manufacturing 400,000 vehicles equipped to handle E85 in 2006 to take advantage of the new 85% ethanol/ 15% gasoline mixtures. They will provide their GM staffs in Detroit with E85 dual use vehicles.
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2006 E85 Capable autos NOW - DC by seniorjose
Jun 05, 2006 (7:59 am)
2006
 
 4.7L Dodge Durango
 4.7L Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 Series
 2.7L Dodge Stratus Sedan
 2.7L Chrysler Sebring Sedan
 3.3L Caravan & Grand Caravan SE
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2006 E85 Capable autos NOW - FORD by seniorjose
Jun 05, 2006 (8:02 am)
2006
 
3.0L Ford Taurus sedan and wagon
4.6L Ford Crown Victoria
4.6L Mercury Marquis
4.6L Mercury Mariner
5.4L Ford F-150
4.6L Lincoln Town Car (2-valve)

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