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#2060 of 2104 Latest Count by yerth10 Sep 22, 2006 (6:46 pm)
According to usa today, there are 6 million Flex fuel vehicles with 970 stations across the country. In the beginning of the year, there were only 600.   Reaching 1000 stations will be a big milestone. Replies to this message: snakeweasel (Sep 23, 2006 5:10 am)
#2061 of 2104 Re: Latest Count [yerth10] by snakeweasel Sep 23, 2006 (5:10 am)
Replying to: yerth10 (Sep 22, 2006 6:46 pm) The big question is how many of those 6 million vehicles actually use E-85? Also how many of those 970 Stations sell a significant amount of E-85?
#2062 of 2104 A Bright Spot? by jae5 Oct 02, 2006 (9:12 am)
Midwest Farmers / Ethanol Plant
#2063 of 2104 Re: San Diego E85 Price [gagrice] by smatt11 Oct 02, 2006 (9:58 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Sep 20, 2006 12:21 pm) First, if you want to save the world, stop driving, turn off your lights, use as little energy as possible. This means you! Not taht guy over there, you! no fuel is going to be the magic answer get over it.   That is too bad about the prices in CA, in St. Cloud MN, gas is $2.15 and E85 was $1.64. Even with a 17% reduction in mileage on my Taurus when using e85, e85 is cheaper.   But California is probably the worst example you could give if you are looking for fair and balanced information on this topic. Likewise Iowa and MN are problably the worst example on the cheap end. The Oct 06 futures price of e85 is currently 1.765, and gas is 1.55 for oct delivery.   Besides Califoria's gov't is going to push the low and mid-income folks into oblivion with the new do-not-exhale CO2 "tax".. Suing the auto makers for building cars like like suing Farmers for raising cattle that cause people to get fat. You cannot reduce CO2 emissions from the tailpipe in any economical way with a gasoline engine technology. California should sue the state of California for building roads. Studies prove if you build roads, the public will fill them with cars which in turn burn gas. Replies to this message: jae5 (Oct 02, 2006 10:06 am) snakeweasel (Oct 02, 2006 10:08 am)
#2064 of 2104 Re: San Diego E85 Price [smatt11] by jae5 Oct 02, 2006 (10:06 am)
Replying to: smatt11 (Oct 02, 2006 9:58 am) A $0.51 price difference, that's nice.   The local Gas City by me that sells E85 is usually only $0.20 ~ $0.30 cheaper than regular. And with their regular higher than a few stations mid-grade it doesn't really make economical sense to purchase E85.
#2065 of 2104 Re: San Diego E85 Price [smatt11] by snakeweasel Oct 02, 2006 (10:08 am)
Replying to: smatt11 (Oct 02, 2006 9:58 am) Even with a 17% reduction in mileage on my Taurus when using e85, e85 is cheaper.   According to the EPA it is a 26% reduction in mileage.
#2067 of 2104 E85 still NO bargain by gagrice Oct 12, 2006 (5:15 am)
Scanning through the E85 website the best price I found was $1.62 in Sioux Falls. Unleaded can be had for $2.04. That is the best price for ethanol. It still is a loser for the guy buying a flex fuel vehicle.
#2068 of 2104 E15 shows loss of mileage by gagrice Oct 12, 2006 (5:17 am)
For Dan Norte, deciding where to fuel up his Ford F150 pickup is not always as simple as scanning pump prices. When he heads to Iowa to see family, the synthetic-oil dealer from Owatonna, Minn., burns an 87-octane Minnesota-mandated gasoline blend that is 10 percent corn-based ethanol. It costs about the same as comparable-grade gasoline. For the trip back he has a 15-percent option, an Iowa blend rated at 89 octane that can be up to a nickel a gallon cheaper. But Mr. Norte has figured out that his savings would probably be erased by lost m.p.g. from the faster-burning fuel.
#2069 of 2104 Stupid US Consumers.. by tiredofterror Oct 13, 2006 (11:07 am)
I love how the car manufacturers and mid america has duped US consumers into even considering ethenol. Yeah let's spend Billions into useless crap when we have the next generation energy source under our nose. That's right, u fools. It's called electricity. We already have the distribution network. We already have the battery technology. We already have the cars. What we need to do is make the d*mn lazy car manufacturer's into building a plug-in hybrids and add little more battery into the car. If a enough battery can be used to make the car run 40-50 miles per charge, we would eliminate 90% of oil use for cars today. Oil engine will be used mostly for longer travel, and would kick in when battery dies. If the govt instead gave tax credits for extra batteries, we would be there tomorrow.   But, it'll never happen. Why? Because US consumers are stupid. We can't think outside of the box. How can we live without gas stations? Plug the car in at home or at work? No way! Here's more CO into the air until we learn the hard lesson. Replies to this message: avalon02wh (Oct 13, 2006 5:01 pm) gagrice (Oct 13, 2006 5:20 pm) avalon02wh (Oct 13, 2006 6:23 pm) and 3 more... jae5 (Oct 16, 2006 9:29 am) snakeweasel (Oct 16, 2006 10:08 am) and 1 more...

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