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Just drove past the only station in CA that sells E85. It was $3.30 per gallon. B20 biodiesel was $2.99. Unleaded regular is $2.59. Good thing they are Flex Fuel vehicles or you would be in trouble if you had an ethanol only car like many were during the last ethanol boom in Brazil.
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According to usa today, there are 6 million Flex fuel vehicles with 970 stations across the country. In the beginning of the year, there were only 600. Reaching 1000 stations will be a big milestone.
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Replying to: yerth10 (Sep 22, 2006 6:46 pm) |
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Replying to: gagrice (Sep 20, 2006 12:21 pm) That is too bad about the prices in CA, in St. Cloud MN, gas is $2.15 and E85 was $1.64. Even with a 17% reduction in mileage on my Taurus when using e85, e85 is cheaper. But California is probably the worst example you could give if you are looking for fair and balanced information on this topic. Likewise Iowa and MN are problably the worst example on the cheap end. The Oct 06 futures price of e85 is currently 1.765, and gas is 1.55 for oct delivery. Besides Califoria's gov't is going to push the low and mid-income folks into oblivion with the new do-not-exhale CO2 "tax".. Suing the auto makers for building cars like like suing Farmers for raising cattle that cause people to get fat. You cannot reduce CO2 emissions from the tailpipe in any economical way with a gasoline engine technology. California should sue the state of California for building roads. Studies prove if you build roads, the public will fill them with cars which in turn burn gas.
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Replying to: smatt11 (Oct 02, 2006 9:58 am) The local Gas City by me that sells E85 is usually only $0.20 ~ $0.30 cheaper than regular. And with their regular higher than a few stations mid-grade it doesn't really make economical sense to purchase E85. |
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Replying to: smatt11 (Oct 02, 2006 9:58 am) According to the EPA it is a 26% reduction in mileage. |
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| Scanning through the E85 website the best price I found was $1.62 in Sioux Falls. Unleaded can be had for $2.04. That is the best price for ethanol. It still is a loser for the guy buying a flex fuel vehicle. | |
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For Dan Norte, deciding where to fuel up his Ford F150 pickup is not always as simple as scanning pump prices. When he heads to Iowa to see family, the synthetic-oil dealer from Owatonna, Minn., burns an 87-octane Minnesota-mandated gasoline blend that is 10 percent corn-based ethanol. It costs about the same as comparable-grade gasoline. For the trip back he has a 15-percent option, an Iowa blend rated at 89 octane that can be up to a nickel a gallon cheaper. But Mr. Norte has figured out that his savings would probably be erased by lost m.p.g. from the faster-burning fuel. |
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