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#2055 of 2104 Re: Ethanol probably won't not catch on! [rorr]
Sep 11, 2006 (12:54 pm)
Hay and oats are a renewable fuel. We just have to work out the pollution control and the fact that its only two horse power.
#2056 of 2104 Re: Ethanol probably won't not catch on! [snakeweasel]
Sep 11, 2006 (1:16 pm)
Of course, even with 'only' two hp, I'm sure the torque figures are nothing to sneeze at. Problem is, the engine probably doesn't breathe too good at high rpm.
And I don't think a 4" exhaust tip would help things one iota....
#2057 of 2104 Honda comes up with a new way to make Ethanol
Sep 15, 2006 (7:40 am)
Honda has at least figured out the production problem. Converting corn and sugarcane into ethanol yielded little fuel given the amount of raw material used, and it also saps food stocks. The new method uses inedible and discarded plant material and is vastly more efficient. Honda is planning to produce an ethanol-capable vehicle for the Brazilian market, but major U.S. automakers like Ford and General Motors already have hundreds of thousands of flex-fuel vehicles on the road now that can run on either ethanol or gasoline.
#2058 of 2104 Re: Honda comes up with a new way to make Ethanol [larsb]
Sep 15, 2006 (4:03 pm)
It will be interesting to see if they can make it work. So far the only company with such a plant is in Canada. Sounds like they have figured out how to squeeze some money from the Jaapanese government.
Honda will set up an experiment plant to further develop the basic technology over the next few year, said Tomohiko Kawanabe, a Senior Managing Director at Honda R&D Co.
RITE was established in 1990 as a joint venture by the Japanese government and private firms to conduct fundamental research on technology to fight global warming.
Honda experiments with ethanol
#2059 of 2104 San Diego E85 Price
Sep 20, 2006 (12:21 pm)
Just drove past the only station in CA that sells E85. It was $3.30 per gallon. B20 biodiesel was $2.99. Unleaded regular is $2.59. Good thing they are Flex Fuel vehicles or you would be in trouble if you had an ethanol only car like many were during the last ethanol boom in Brazil.
#2060 of 2104 Latest Count
Sep 22, 2006 (6:46 pm)
According to usa today, there are 6 million Flex fuel vehicles with 970 stations across the country. In the beginning of the year, there were only 600.
Reaching 1000 stations will be a big milestone.
#2061 of 2104 Re: Latest Count [yerth10]
Sep 23, 2006 (5:10 am)
The big question is how many of those 6 million vehicles actually use E-85? Also how many of those 970 Stations sell a significant amount of E-85?
#2063 of 2104 Re: San Diego E85 Price [gagrice]
Oct 02, 2006 (9:58 am)
First, if you want to save the world, stop driving, turn off your lights, use as little energy as possible. This means you! Not taht guy over there, you! no fuel is going to be the magic answer get over it.
That is too bad about the prices in CA, in St. Cloud MN, gas is $2.15 and E85 was $1.64. Even with a 17% reduction in mileage on my Taurus when using e85, e85 is cheaper.
But California is probably the worst example you could give if you are looking for fair and balanced information on this topic. Likewise Iowa and MN are problably the worst example on the cheap end. The Oct 06 futures price of e85 is currently 1.765, and gas is 1.55 for oct delivery.
Besides Califoria's gov't is going to push the low and mid-income folks into oblivion with the new do-not-exhale CO2 "tax".. Suing the auto makers for building cars like like suing Farmers for raising cattle that cause people to get fat. You cannot reduce CO2 emissions from the tailpipe in any economical way with a gasoline engine technology. California should sue the state of California for building roads. Studies prove if you build roads, the public will fill them with cars which in turn burn gas.
#2064 of 2104 Re: San Diego E85 Price [smatt11]
Oct 02, 2006 (10:06 am)
A $0.51 price difference, that's nice.
The local Gas City by me that sells E85 is usually only $0.20 ~ $0.30 cheaper than regular. And with their regular higher than a few stations mid-grade it doesn't really make economical sense to purchase E85.