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Re: diesels? [snakeweasel] by jae5
Aug 22, 2006 (2:29 pm)

Replying to: snakeweasel (Aug 22, 2006 10:55 am)

Mannheim Rd and the Ike
Ah, yes, another goody!! I think it's all the sweaty armpits from everyone that gets caught in the Hillside Strangler.
 
SW, you're lucky you've never been exposed to the, shall I say, "fragrant aroma" of the 38/59 intersection. Come through there at the wrong time and oh boy!! I should bottle it as a new form of smelling salts.
 
Anyway, the 111th/59 station is a little too south of me, but nice to know. I make all trips as short & sweet and direct as possible, saving as much fuel as I can.
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consumer reports article about the ethanol scam by elias
Sep 01, 2006 (5:55 pm)
CR has a great article about the ethanol scam this month and how it substantially increases gasoline usage in USA. you won't exactly find the word 'scam' in the article but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it be a duck. that's what i'm talkin about. mallard style.
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Re: Ethanol probably won't not catch on! [markcincinnati] by jim314
Sep 10, 2006 (4:23 am)

Replying to: markcincinnati (Aug 22, 2006 10:18 am)

Mark,
 
Your series of posts on the subject of fuel ethanol are really excellent--to my mind professional quality. It seems to me that you could collect these and send them to the energy/economics editor of a newspaper or magazine. I suggest sending them to Chemical & Engineering News, an influential publication of the American Chemical Society.
 
Right now the neither US citizenry nor their elected leaders (as the replies from your congressional representative show) are willing to face the hard truths about our fossil fuel consumption. President Bush could only do so in the petulant "...addicted to oil..." crack in his State of the Union speech which insulted our Middle Eastern and Venezuelan oil suppliers. The idea is that to recognize limitations is negative thinking. One of our national myths is that Americans have reached the level of prosperity we have because of our "can do" attitude. We have a habit of getting things done because we don't listen to effete intellectuals who counsel accepting the status quo. Like most useful myths it has an element of truth, but it is being pushed into a refusal to accept real limitations.
 
These real limitations are called "externalities" in the field of economics, a term which to me is revealing of a worldview in which we humans can decide what world we want, except for those pesky "externalities."
 
Seemingly most Americans do not want the matter of our consumption of fossil fuel for transportation really explained because they want a climate of uncertainty so that they can tell themselves that there is some easy fix (like ethanol) which will allow them or somebody to save enough oil so that they themselves can just continue on like they have been.
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Re: Ethanol probably won't not catch on! [teamcanada4eco] by snakeweasel
Sep 11, 2006 (11:04 am)

hi try [product name deleted for obvious reasons] I was so impressed with this product I became a distributor.
 
Yes and a Prince from Nigeria will give me millions just for helping him get money out of his country.
 
And that I can make $5,000 a month part time from my home.
 
And that by forwarding a simple e-mail Bill gates will send me money.
 
And that Elvis is alive.
 
And that Pluto is still a planet.
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Re: Ethanol probably won't not catch on! [snakeweasel] by rorr
Sep 11, 2006 (11:16 am)

Replying to: snakeweasel (Sep 11, 2006 11:04 am)

"And that Pluto is still a planet."
 
Actually, Pluto is a dog.
 
And Mickey is a mouse and Donald is a duck. What I'm trying to figure out is, what the heck is Goofy?
 
Ans: bozos trying to sell bogus 'gas saving' doodads on the internet.....
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Re: Ethanol probably won't not catch on! [rorr] by snakeweasel
Sep 11, 2006 (11:25 am)

Replying to: rorr (Sep 11, 2006 11:16 am)

Would you believe that I actually found a device that is 100% guaranteed to save you gas?
 
Its very simple, just attach one end to the front of your car. At any given stoplight attach the other end to the back of the car in front of you. Put your car in neutral and bingo instant gas savings.
 
What is this wonderful invention?
 
well wait no more
 
Here it is
 
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Re: Ethanol probably won't not catch on! [snakeweasel] by rorr
Sep 11, 2006 (11:33 am)

Replying to: snakeweasel (Sep 11, 2006 11:25 am)

LOL!
 
Probably the most effective device I've seen yet....
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Re: Ethanol probably won't not catch on! [rorr] by snakeweasel
Sep 11, 2006 (11:45 am)

Replying to: rorr (Sep 11, 2006 11:33 am)

Here is another wonderful gas saving device that attaches to your car.
 

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