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1/5 of all the petroleum used in the United States is consumed by the food industry—more than we burn with our cars or in any other industry I guess it takes oil to make fuel for our cars. Even if you make it from corn. Or does it take more coal to make ethanol. Just what we need more coal fired ethanol plants. NRG is considering building an ethanol plant that would use steam from an existing power plant or from a new coal-fired boiler, Bob Henry, NRG senior vice president of operations, told Dow Jones Newswires in an interview Blue Flint Ethanol, a producer based in Underwood, N.D., is one of only a few U.S. companies pursuing a similar ethanol plant that uses steam produced from a coal-fired boiler. The company is building an ethanol plant near Underwood with an annual capacity of 50 million gallons that will use steam generated by Great River Energy's Coal Creek power plant. The plant is scheduled to start operating in March. These plants have much lower fuel costs than other ethanol plants Why not make fuel from coal to start with? Cut out the corn production that is polluting our rivers, streams and ocean. Plant Iowa into pasture grass and give us beef, pork and chicken that is healthy. |
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Because of the tecgnical problems of building, maintain8ng and repairing diesels in Europe a recent poll be Der Spiegel stated that 73% of europeans would abandon the diesel engine in favor of gasoline driven engines...hmmmm! They have no choice but to being forced to buy inferior autos with inferior diesel engines. Remember, Biodiesel is very harmful to our rnvironment and must be kept away from any aquifer, or river or stream. An example of diesel costs is contained in the Diesel foru where it has been stated that a failure in the Turbo for a diesel (smalll) engine will cost $2,800 to $3,000...more expensive to maintain than a hybrid. I guess that is why one of the proponents of diesel engines sold his car after one year...talk about buyer's remorse!
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 28, 2006 1:57 pm) |
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Straight from the pro E85 website. E85 as much a $1.06 more than unleaded. Who here is willing to pay a buck a gallon more to support ADM? From: Saluki E85 Price: 2.96 Station Name: Gas City Station City: Warrenville, IL Unleaded Price: 2.26 Date: Sunday, August 20, 2006 --------------------- From: costs2muchhere E85 Price: 4.109 Station Name: West Street Citgo Station City: Annapolis Unleaded Price: 3.049 Date: Sunday, August 20, 2006 -------------------- From: Paul E85 Price: 2.799 Station Name: Marathon Mach 1 Station City: Urbana, IL Unleaded Price: 2.969 Date: Sunday, August 20, 2006 Disclaimer: Seems that some ethanol advocates are trying to twist what the American Lung Association says about ethanol. (The American Lung Association of the Upper Midwest is not responsible for misinformation reported on the E85 Price Forum. )
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We have a 2100 PT cruiser and on highway driving we get 30 miles to the gallon. The PT is a great car. Gerald E Smith Providence Rhode Island |
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Replying to: seniorjose (Aug 20, 2006 8:12 pm) Yet they still continue to drive diesel engines even though there are gas powered alternatives...hmmmm looks like I need to get my boots on. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Aug 20, 2006 9:30 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Aug 21, 2006 5:27 am) Seemed kind of cheap to me also. I do see $2.73 in the Anna area. I guess you just cannot trust any of the information on the E85 websites. I agree on the personal attacks. I guess if you do not have any facts to back up your viewpoint you just attack those that do. |
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