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#156 of 284 Problem Body Control Module (BCM) & "The DISCO effect
Jan 23, 2009 (1:15 pm)
(Note I have seen in other posts that this is also happening to the Buick Rendezvous. Please post reply to my poll in my Aztek post so that there will be one location to access the data. See:
#283 of 283 Problem Body Control Module (BCM) for the Pontiac Aztek & "The DISCO effect by charocfl Jan 23, 2009 (11:50 am)
at: http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f10b5f0/282 or post below if you like)
Hi, since I have now experienced one of the first stages of Problem Body Control Module (BCM) for the Pontiac Aztek & "The DISCO effect" where my hatch refused to open using either my key remote, dash button or manually with key (was not even able to turn key in lock to open). I did some research & found that this a prevalent problem with the Aztec & similar cars such as the Rendezvous & that several people have attempted to request assistance with this problem or at least a recall for the defunct GM: 15143352 Body Control Module (BCM) & note I have read that this BCM has been replaced by ACDelco 15235418 Control Module Assembly, but I have not been able to completely verify this as yet. Note these BCM cost between $325 to $175 ea. & require programming for each individual car which I have seen rungs around $80. Note this does not include the 2 hours tearing my Aztec apart by remove parts in order the hatch open (included removing the rear hatch window, hatch molding, etc.) & the time & labor to put every thing back. Also note that his will have to be done twice since I need to drive my Aztek while I am working on getting a replacement BCM. The fact that some many Azteks & Rendezvous have come down with this "Disco Effect" for going on over 5 years now from the posts & complaints I have seen I think it is about time that a recall should be issued to have the BCM replaced on all effected cars. To this end if anyone who has experienced the "DISCO effect" please post the following:
Car, model & year:
The repair costs:
Any persons contacted, when, & response to complaint:
Which BCM P/N was used to replace the defective one?
Thanks for your cooperation, I have completed the email form & will be contacting the Pontiac customer care by phone later on & will post the responses when I get them, BTW if you want to contact Pontiac as I have their contact info is:
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PS: I will be keeping a running documentation on the research I am doing regarding this issue at my Yahoo link listed below: http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/sBN6SZAlGtlYMC8-9tD3sVVwpNnZ7dIDH7qTTw83mM574IK2bis- W1gLY
CharO, Merritt Island, FL
Copy of my email feedback to Pontaic:
I would like to know the status on any recalls for the Azteks regarding the Body Control Module (BCM) for the Pontiac Aztek ref: GM: 15143352 which may have been replaced by Control Module Assembly - Model #: 15235418 Brand: ACDelco. As I under stand it from the several pages of complaints this is one of the stages of the 'disco effect' where the head lights were flashing constantly and horn honking, doors/windows & hatch unlock/lock &/or release, Dash instrumentations goes out & the AC & barratry(s) drain. For more detailed hatch/BCM problem please see: http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f10b5f0/282 Note, I will hold off filing a consumer complaint at www.800helpfla.com until I hear back with your response.
01 Aztek GT - VIN: 3G7DA03E21S528105
Charlene M. Ormsby, Merritt Island, FL 32953
#157 of 284 2002 CX many problems
Jan 29, 2009 (2:57 pm)
My wife and I also have a 2002 CX with 112,000 miles on it. It is not the AWD model, but it is loaded with all the other options and even has the trailer towing option added. We bought the Buick from my father in 2005 after I totaled out my cavalier (never had one problem with that car). My father did not have any problems with the Buick during his ownership. Since we have owned it we have replaced the front brakes 3 times, rotars 2 times, back brakes and rotars, both front wheel bearings, the hood has been repainted for the paint bubbling (which GM knows about and they told me that it is a common problem, but could not do anything about it). Since then the paint has began to bubble again, and even though we were told that the paint had a life time warranty, they will not do anything about it unless it rust through, the hood is aluminum, it will not rust through. The extra air compressor will not work, my air leveling system will not turn on, my third tail light will not work and I can not find a replacement anywhere. My gas gauge does not work, the fuel used gauge works but the traditional gas gauge does not. I am always blowing fuses when we try to plug anything in to the cig lighter. Is anyone else having these problems and what could be causing them. I have taken it to dealers and they tell me that there is nothing they can do. We have $4000 left to pay on it and dealers are only offering us $2000 for it. Oh, and it also started to leak oil this year and they can not find where it is coming from. We love the car, it has a great ride, great room, and we like how it looks, but we can not afford to keep fixing it unless we know what is wrong. My father has felt so bad that he has paid for half the repairs, but it is GM's issue not my fathers.
#158 of 284 Re: Class Action [juliaom]
Jan 29, 2009 (3:31 pm)
Mine is leaking coolant from the radiator. $800.00+ to have the radiator replace. 3 1/2 hours labor. Very sad.
#159 of 284 Re: 2002 CX many problems [tatoobanker]
Jan 30, 2009 (12:39 pm)
For the things to rear of vehicle (brake light fuel sensor for gauge auto-level) there is a connector that has an effect on many things. It is the c-305 connector and it is in back of drivers seat on floor (about where your feet would go if sitting in back), its been known to cause problems (bad connections) due to water intrustion.
#160 of 284 Re: 2002 CX many problems [ray80]
Feb 04, 2009 (7:35 am)
Thank you for giving me someplace to look. The dealerships have told me that there is nothing wrong, they have also told me that I would have to replace my whole fule system, $1,000.00. So any adivce that I can get would be great. I will give this connection a look at. Thanks.
#161 of 284 Re: All the same problems! [benlucky36]
Feb 07, 2009 (9:35 pm)
I also have a 2002 Buick Rendezvous CXL. 3 weeks ago I was driving home when the hot coolant warning came on flashing and chiming. I pulled off the road and waited for it to cool and took it to a lube center. They said the coolant looked fine, but they could smell fuel when they lifted the hood and encouraged me to take it in to a mechanic. The next day I took it to the mechanic and on the short drive there, I expereinced again the hot coolant warning light. The mechanic replaced the water pump and the thermostat - and the problem still wasn't fixed. We then took it to the dealership where they called a few days later and stated the problem was fixed - 5 miles from the dealership, here comes the warning light again! Took it back and they are now saying it looks like the head gasket and a whole lotta money! Like others, my door locks only work sometimes. Frustrating!
I miss my car! I sure hope Buick steps up to the plate and helps us out with this as it appears to be pretty common ... am thinking I have bought a money pit!
#162 of 284 2002 Rendezvous LEMON !
Feb 08, 2009 (8:46 pm)
I had posted months ago about the head gasgets on my 2002 rendezvous.come to find its the intake vavles. So.... I paid 975.00 to fix the darn the thing! Now came back to tell me that on this model that the rings are worn down because water has got in the there because the seals were not put in right! Now I have to have the whole motor replaced!!!!! Please!!! tell me where to sign on the forum on the class action suit...
#163 of 284 2002 Rendezvous LEMON !
Feb 08, 2009 (8:53 pm)
Make sure its not the intake valves.because I also thought it was the head gasgets too....and make sure who ever checks your car, that they check your rings before you lose your money....there are three other 2002 rendezvous here in odessa tx with the same thing that happened to them...Be careful!!!!!!
#164 of 284 Re: P.S. to Post #153 [porkchop]
Feb 21, 2009 (10:10 am)
so porkchop did the battery solve the alledged bcm problem
#165 of 284 Re: P.S. to Post #153 [rmck641]
Feb 21, 2009 (10:24 am)
The electrical problem was due to the short at the fuse box, the battery was the original battery and did need replaced ~ nothing was wrong with the BCM. The car has been fine since the repair.