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507 messages, Last post on Oct 27, 2009 at 11:49 AM
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 02, 2009 6:29 am) I am more for an increased gas tax, which allows the consumer maximum discretion both over vehicle purchases and the amount of driving they do, than I am for a bigger better CAFE.
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don't you think that this is a horrible time to increase gasoline taxes? I mean, my wife and I are certainly in a position to pay a higher percentage, but a lot of Americans are not. I would think that this will further break people's financial spirits to up Federal fuel taxes.
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Replying to: steve_ (Apr 01, 2009 6:28 pm) Mountains and Molehills. |
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 02, 2009 8:20 am) Certainly the unemployment rate is the only factor that should be taken into account in terms of the timing of the gas tax. It should start out with a modest bump, with regular, small but frequent increases. If we set $4 gas as our target price floor, we have already shown (last summer) that it will be enough to begin to get people to conserve, and also to make changes in their vehicle buying habits. Then automakers can quit crying foul, they can make what they like and see what people will buy.
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 02, 2009 7:27 am) I have no further choices except to drive fewer miles, change jobs, move domicile, etc. |
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I am not totally against raising gas taxes, I just think that if they do it now there will be mayhem in the streets. I am researching all-electric powertrains cars constantly now, planning to jump off the ghastly bandwagon as soon as the purchasing time is right. That could be years and years and years, but I am looking for that time to come. Excited about it, actually. |
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I certainly think so!
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Replying to: carfanforever (Apr 02, 2009 1:06 pm) Ove the 30 yrs that the current system has been in place it hasn't stopped the vehicle makers from making SUVs for those than want them, trucks for those that want them, midsizers for the bulk of the population and small cars and hybrids for those that want them. In addition it has saved billions of gallons of fuel and it's kept upwards of $25 to $50 Billion in our pockets that hasn't gone to oil companies and Saudi princes. So where is the 'bad'.
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Apr 02, 2009 1:51 pm) Becuase look at what this latest revamping of CAFE has done to the product plans of the D3. It has for all intents and purposes decimated GMs plans for Zeta, it's Trucks, and it's Muscle/Sports car program. Like it or not, those are the vehicles they know how to do best, and that earn the company positive buzz among car buyers, something GM could use every ounce of. It also has hurt Ford vis-a-vis their global RWD program, but since Ford is a little better at making smaller vehicles than GM (But still not as good as the Euros and Japanese) they were hit less hard by it. I think this was the plan all along, and that the haters of big V8 vehicles in Washington just bided their time to put something like this into action.
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 01, 2009 8:20 pm) Your memory has failed you... for shame Tata owns Jaguar and Land Rover, thus their inclusion on the list as the "manufacturer" (or, the parent firm). kcram - Pickups/Wagons Host
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