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Automotive News & Views Has CAFE reached the end of its usefulness?
507 messages, Last post on Oct 27, 2009 at 11:49 AM
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by a Smart doing at least 80. Wonder what fuel economy he was getting at that speed?!  I am all for ramping up gas taxes some to instill some more common sense out there among the buying public. I don't know about $5/gallon though. I was thinking that $1.50 would be OK, spread out over 7-10 years. Forget CAFE, and start regulating emissions of CO2 instead. Let's get at the heart of the matter.
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 03, 2008 6:13 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Feb 23, 2008 9:48 am) "until recently there was only one publicly available ethanol station in the entire state, and it was in San Diego County" "(Yes, sounds weird, 50,000 flex fuel vehicles sold in a region where its almost impossible for most to get anything but gasoline to run their cars and trucks on, but that's how the game is played. The federal government gives automakers mileage credits for making and selling the vehicles and hasn't seemed to care whether anyone actually puts an alternative fuel into them.)" Ethanol For the Masses...If You're Near Brentwood (GreenCarAdvisor) |
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Replying to: nippononly (Feb 23, 2008 4:18 am) The Federal Gov'ts concern which is mainly about there not being enough supply to maintain our economy and our way of life - and our security. The Environmentalit's concern which is about minimizing the harmful effects of burning fossil fuels The Populace's concern which is simply about not going broke paying for fuel. Sometime these concerns intertwine and move in concert such as the increase in fuel economy by implementing CAFE 35. Frankly I don't see this Administration having any interest in minimizing the environmental effects of burning oil. However it is deeply concerned about making hostile countries richer by our gluttonous use of petro-fuel. The populace IMHO has no inkling that it's on the verge of potentially running out of fuel to go to Grandma's house on the weekends. |
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I started this thread back when gas was shooting up in price with no end in sight. Since then a deep global recession has started and gas is now lower in price than I have seen it since well before Katrina. In the light of these new gas prices, I expect some people will revert to their old buying habits, so CAFE is a good secondary measure to keep automakers working towards the goal of making more fuel-efficient cars available. It would be sort of nice to see the new president and congress develop a cohesive energy policy for the country, and maybe it could include a further boost from 35 mpg for the standard - we are still below most developed countries and even China with CAFE 35. We still need all the loopholes out of CAFE too - that's a problem that has existed forever that persists even with the new legislation this year.
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Replying to: nippononly (Dec 01, 2008 9:47 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 01, 2008 11:05 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Dec 01, 2008 12:31 pm) |
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Apparently NOT: Mercedes fined for violating fuel efficiency rules Mercedes-Benz's U.S. division paid a $28.9 million fine in December for violating federal fuel efficiency requirements, the government said Tuesday. Mercedes-Benz USA LLC paid the fine for imported passenger cars from the 2007 model year, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said in documents released to The Associated Press. Isn't SOMEONE at MB smart enough to say, "all we need is a couple of small diesel hybrids making 70+ MPG and we can save these fines."
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 13, 2009 12:05 pm) |
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