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Automotive News & Views Has CAFE reached the end of its usefulness?
507 messages, Last post on Oct 27, 2009 at 11:49 AM
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...we finally have a Politics topic! Where's that sign-up sheet.........hey.....where'd everybody go?
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Replying to: li_sailor (Nov 09, 2007 6:55 pm) Politics |
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Replying to: tpe (Nov 06, 2007 6:53 pm) In case you hadn't noticed, most auto companies don't have any "excess" profits. If you truly want to change how people behave, you have to punish/reward them directly. |
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"A federal appeals court on Thursday threw out planned federal fuel economy standards for many sport-utility vehicles, minivans and pickups. The 9th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals ruled that the standards, which were to go into effect next year, didn't properly assess the risk to the environment and failed to include heavier SUVs and trucks, among several other deficiencies the court found." Court tosses impending federal fuel economy standards (USA Today) |
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The court basically said the new 24 mpg standard already set previously was a joke. It totally failed to take into account "the threat posed by carbon dioxide emissions". NHTSA is supposed to rewrite them much tougher as quickly as possible, to take effect in the same window as the previous set was. I remember when the Bush administration first touted those new truck CAFE standards as taking environmental protection seriously, while most of the folks I know just laughed and laughed at a stance taken to so blatantly let carmakers off the hook for a few more years...
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Replying to: nippononly (Nov 15, 2007 7:03 pm) |
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Replying to: boaz47 (Nov 16, 2007 10:03 am) Very interesting article about where we've been in fuel economy in light of today's signing of the energy bill that increases CAFE to 35 mpg by 2020. We have clearly traded fuel economy for everything else... creature comforts, more room (reflecting our increased appetites?), and safety items - all of which increase weight. And that increased weight requires more power to get it moving... coupled with our "need for speed" and the resulting horsepower wars, we now have compact cars with double the horsepower of 20 years ago, and a resulting significant drop in fuel economy. So where do we go from here? Would you relinquish some of the creature comforts and 0-60 times to save at the pump? kcram - Pickups Host
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Replying to: kcram (Dec 19, 2007 10:04 am) That said, I find it amazing just how bloated today's cars have become - there are only a few four seaters available that weigh less than 2500 lbs. I would be willing to trade creature comfots, space, and even some safety for better fuel economy, but I'm definitely in the minority. I'm convinced that this new legislation is going to backfire. It will probably reduce the number of small SUVs and pickups on the road, but it's going to increase the number of large SUVs and trucks that are too big to be considered for CAFE.
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| but I can use better mpg every day. | |
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