Sign In Join 



Has CAFE reached the end of its usefulness?

507 messages,  Last post on Oct 27, 2009 at 11:49 AM

You are in the Automotive News & Views Forum. Your Hosts are steve_ & claires

What is this discussion about? Fuel Efficiency (MPG)


Messages Page 31 of 51
1
...
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
...
51
Prev
Next
Last
Go To Msg #
Search This Discussion

#300 of 507
Re: think back [volvomax] by rockylee
Oct 12, 2007 (2:11 pm)
Reply

Replying to: volvomax (Oct 12, 2007 10:06 am)

25K sq/ft is actually quite small when you compare it to somebody's home like Shaquille O'Neal's 60,000 sq/ft home in Miami, Florida.
 
-Rocky
#301 of 507
Re: think back [rockylee] by volvomax
Oct 12, 2007 (2:16 pm)
Reply

Replying to: rockylee (Oct 12, 2007 2:11 pm)

Shaq isn't running for Prez, or telling people how they should live.
#302 of 507
Re: think back [volvomax] by rockylee
Oct 12, 2007 (2:21 pm)
Reply

Replying to: volvomax (Oct 12, 2007 2:16 pm)

telling people how they should live
 
Either is John Edwards. But even John, with his large house has done things like change to flourescent ligh bulbs to reduce his emissions.
 
-Rocky
#303 of 507
Re: think back [rockylee] by volvomax
Oct 12, 2007 (2:26 pm)
Reply

Replying to: rockylee (Oct 12, 2007 2:21 pm)

Um, Edwards is the pol who suggested that people give up their SUV's.
He is Mr. "Two America's"
Clearly, he prefers to live in the rich America,and has zero qualms about it.
#304 of 507
Re: think back [volvomax] by rockylee
Oct 12, 2007 (2:38 pm)
Reply

Replying to: volvomax (Oct 12, 2007 2:26 pm)

Owns a couple of SUV hybrids.
 
-Rocky
#305 of 507
Re: think back [rockylee] by gagrice
Oct 12, 2007 (8:58 pm)
Reply

Replying to: rockylee (Oct 12, 2007 2:38 pm)

That does not come close to mitigating the carbon footprint of a 25k sq foot home.
 
You need to research our President's Crawford ranch home. He is far more environmentally astute than Edwards or Gore. GW Bush's carbon footprint may be even less than yours.
 
Some politicians talk a good story. Some just do it and keep quiet about it.
#306 of 507
umm by nippononly
Oct 12, 2007 (10:20 pm)
Reply
keep quiet about it??!! How about ardently trumpet that there isn't a problem for a half dozen years, until enough people have called him a fool that he reverses himself completely?
 
In five years Explorer has gone from far and away the #1 SUV to being topped by the CRV (new #1 SUV) and RAV. Buyers may be coming to their senses despite the lack of leadership from Washington.
#307 of 507
Re: think back [gagrice] by rockylee
Oct 13, 2007 (1:15 am)
Reply

Replying to: gagrice (Oct 12, 2007 8:58 pm)

Bush's carbon footprint may be even less than yours.
 
That's laughable. The guy fly's in Jet's weekly. He's dumped more carbon gases into the enviroment than my whole family combined.
 
-Rocky
#308 of 507
Re: umm [nippononly] by gagrice
Oct 13, 2007 (7:16 am)
Reply

Replying to: nippononly (Oct 12, 2007 10:20 pm)

In my opinion you are under a false assumption that SUVs are a problem. Saving energy is a good thing. Going overboard is not. How does driving a Prius into a 6 car garage attached to an 11k square foot home being environmentally sound?
#309 of 507
Re: think back [rockylee] by gagrice
Oct 13, 2007 (7:25 am)
Reply

Replying to: rockylee (Oct 13, 2007 1:15 am)

That is part of any President's carbon footprint. Even your beloved Bill Clinton. I am referring to his personal residence in Crawford, TX. Compare that to any Democrat running for President and you will start to see the true picture, and who is and who is not doing their part to save the planet.
 
His Texas ranch captures rain and wastewater for landscaping. Solar panels line the roof and an underground geothermal system provides heating and air conditioning.
 
There's even a protected forest that is home to the rare golden-cheeked warbler.
 
The 4,000-square-foot house is a model of environmental rectitude.
 
Geothermal heat pumps located in a central closet circulate water through pipes buried 300 feet deep in the ground where the temperature is a constant 67 degrees; the water heats the house in the winter and cools it in the summer.
 
Systems such as the one in this "eco-friendly" dwelling use about 25% of the electricity that traditional heating and cooling systems utilize.
 
A 25,000-gallon underground cistern collects rainwater gathered from roof runs; wastewater from sinks, toilets and showers goes into underground purifying tanks and is also funneled into the cistern.
 
The water from the cistern is used to irrigate the landscaping surrounding the four-bedroom home. Plants and flowers native to the high prairie area blend the structure into the surrounding ecosystem.
 
No, this is not the home of some eccentrically wealthy eco-freak trying to shame his fellow citizens into following the pristineness of his self-righteous example.
 
And no, it is not the wilderness retreat of the Sierra Club or the Natural Resources Defense Council, a haven where tree-huggers plot political strategy.
 
This is President George W. Bush's "Texas White House" outside the small town of Crawford.

Messages Page 31 of 51
1
...
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
...
51
Prev
Next
Last
Go To Msg #
Search This Discussion
To POST a message, please Sign In.

New? Join Now!

Forum Tools

Please sign in.
Email Address:

Password:

Forgot Password?

Search Forums

Enter Keyword(s)

Advanced Search

Browse by Vehicle



View All Vehicles
Advertisement
Ask the Community
See What People Are Asking

Browse by Board

Browse by Topic


View All Topics

Today's Chats

Advertisement