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#2193 of 2209 Re: Sienna 2005 intermittent ABS Failure [alanstone] by linea

Oct 21, 2006 (11:56 am)

Replying to: alanstone (Oct 20, 2006 6:05 pm)
Thanks for your response. I was able to find that owners of Sienna 2004 had similar complaints, but no resolution was posted. Please other owners with intermittent ABS failure such that the brake pedals goes to the floor and you do not slow down, but when you reapply the brakes they work fine: let me know, since my dealership finds nothing wrong.

#2194 of 2209 Toyota Sienna: Problems & Solutions (2004+) by claires HOST

Oct 23, 2006 (2:48 am)

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#2195 of 2209 '07 Sienna Demo and damaged purchase by mtatech

Sep 07, 2007 (5:15 am)

#2196 of 2209 '07 Sienna Demo and damaged purchase by mtatech

Aug 18, 2007 (2:40 pm)

I just got back from my local Toyota dealer since I'm looking for a Sienna. The other day a salesperson called me about demo cars, so I stopped in.
 
I brought my data from Edmunds and my laptop. The salesperson said that they had a 2007 XLE Limited AWD demo and asked whether I was interested. I answered, "depends."
 
The car had 4,000 miles on it. While I was looking at the car I noticed a nine inch by one inch scrape (like a side-swipe) on the panel before the rear tire. I pointed it out to the saleman.
 
During the negotiation portion the salesman quoting MSRP and I said 'any Demo car with damage we don't talk discounts from MSRP, we talk discounts from invoice price.' We settled on $30,780 minus the current $1,500 rebate - which I thought was great.
 
However, once I returned to the dealer with the bank check I noticed the invoice said "FWD" not "AWD." Upon further inspection, I noticed it said "XLE" not "XLE Limited." I then checked the car itself and sure enough, it was an XLE with the #3 package not a Limited.
 
Essentially, the dealer was giving me the car for a few hundred off invoice cost, which may be an OK deal but not a great deal. The manager wouldn't go any lower. I voided the transaction.
 
Did I do the right thing?

#2197 of 2209 more... by mtatech

Aug 18, 2007 (2:44 pm)

I wanted to add that I don't think this was an intential 'bait and switch.' The saleman was new and I believe wasn't familiar with all the models.
 
However, the issue is if a car has 4,000 miles on it and has body work damage invoice price is still too high.

#2198 of 2209 Re: '07 Sienna Demo and damaged purchase [mtatech] by caravan2

Aug 18, 2007 (9:01 pm)

Replying to: mtatech (Aug 18, 2007 2:40 pm)
I think you did the right thing. I'm not sure "XLE & FWD" could be mistaken for "XLE Limited and AWD", the back of Sienna has XLE Limited and AWD pasted.
 
I'm not sure about your area, but in most areas you should be able to get 2007 below invoice or at invoice.

#2199 of 2209 Re: '07 Sienna Demo and damaged purchase [mtatech] by jipster

Aug 20, 2007 (2:30 pm)

Replying to: mtatech (Aug 18, 2007 2:40 pm)
Did I do the right thing?
 
Yes.
 
That this dealership tried to sell you a 6,000 mile 2007 "demo", with body damage at MSRP is laughable. ha ha ha. Run away!

#2200 of 2209 Re: '07 Sienna Demo and damaged purchase [jipster] by ateixeira

Aug 27, 2007 (11:55 am)

Replying to: jipster (Aug 20, 2007 2:30 pm)
I agree. 4000 miles means it's now a used car. That should put it at about 5-10% below invoice by itself.
 
The damage knocks another $800 (at least) off of that.
 
The dealer was DREAMING, no way it's worth that much. It's used and abused, literally.

#2201 of 2209 Re: more... [mtatech] by gclemm

Sep 06, 2007 (9:41 pm)

Replying to: mtatech (Aug 18, 2007 2:44 pm)
If nobody bought the car, it would be even cheaper! All you sheep that jump on a $30k "deal" on a car that's not significantly better than a Chrysler minivan or Chevy Uplander, should have your heads examined!

#2202 of 2209 Disagree by mtatech

Sep 07, 2007 (5:15 am)

"on a car that's not significantly better than a Chrysler minivan or Chevy Uplander, should have your heads examined!"
 
I must disagree. Siennas are significantly better than Chrysler minivans or Chevy Uplanders.
 
According to Consumer Reports' survey of owners, 79% of Sienna owners would buy the car again compared to 49% of Chrysler Town & Country owners and 36% of Chevrolet Uplander owners.
 
In terms of reliabilty, only the Sienna ranked "better than average." Honda and Kia ranked "average" and Chrysler Town & Country, Dodge Grand Caravan, Dodge Caravan (V6), Ford Freestar, Nissan Quest, Buick Terraza, Chevrolet Uplander and Saturn Relay all ranked "below average."
 
Whether $30K is a good deal or not for THIS CAR is the subject of this topic. Obviously, Siennas in general are worth $30K because Toyota doesn't seem to have trouble selling brand new ones. In fact, the easiest sells seem to be XLE Limits that sell close to $40K.

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