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#2192 of 2209 Re: Sienna 2005 intermittent ABS Failure [linea]
Oct 20, 2006 (5:05 pm)
This sounds like a problem that was previously posted so you should search back a bit.
I was badly injured by a defective hatch on my 2005. The dealership and local reps denied problems. I filed an incident report to nhtsa and engaged them in some dialog. As it turned out, Toyota had issued a technical service bulletin for the problem 1 year before my accident. I would encourage you to file an incident report as it may help keep the automakers honest and us safer.
#2193 of 2209 Re: Sienna 2005 intermittent ABS Failure [alanstone]
Oct 21, 2006 (10:56 am)
Thanks for your response. I was able to find that owners of Sienna 2004 had similar complaints, but no resolution was posted. Please other owners with intermittent ABS failure such that the brake pedals goes to the floor and you do not slow down, but when you reapply the brakes they work fine: let me know, since my dealership finds nothing wrong.
#2194 of 2209 Toyota Sienna: Problems & Solutions (2004+)
by Claire@Edmunds HOST
Oct 23, 2006 (1:48 am)
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#2195 of 2209 '07 Sienna Demo and damaged purchase
Sep 07, 2007 (4:15 am)
#2196 of 2209 '07 Sienna Demo and damaged purchase
Aug 18, 2007 (1:40 pm)
I just got back from my local Toyota dealer since I'm looking for a Sienna. The other day a salesperson called me about demo cars, so I stopped in.
I brought my data from Edmunds and my laptop. The salesperson said that they had a 2007 XLE Limited AWD demo and asked whether I was interested. I answered, "depends."
The car had 4,000 miles on it. While I was looking at the car I noticed a nine inch by one inch scrape (like a side-swipe) on the panel before the rear tire. I pointed it out to the saleman.
During the negotiation portion the salesman quoting MSRP and I said 'any Demo car with damage we don't talk discounts from MSRP, we talk discounts from invoice price.' We settled on $30,780 minus the current $1,500 rebate - which I thought was great.
However, once I returned to the dealer with the bank check I noticed the invoice said "FWD" not "AWD." Upon further inspection, I noticed it said "XLE" not "XLE Limited." I then checked the car itself and sure enough, it was an XLE with the #3 package not a Limited.
Essentially, the dealer was giving me the car for a few hundred off invoice cost, which may be an OK deal but not a great deal. The manager wouldn't go any lower. I voided the transaction.
Did I do the right thing?
Aug 18, 2007 (1:44 pm)
I wanted to add that I don't think this was an intential 'bait and switch.' The saleman was new and I believe wasn't familiar with all the models.
However, the issue is if a car has 4,000 miles on it and has body work damage invoice price is still too high.
#2198 of 2209 Re: '07 Sienna Demo and damaged purchase [mtatech]
Aug 18, 2007 (8:01 pm)
I think you did the right thing. I'm not sure "XLE & FWD" could be mistaken for "XLE Limited and AWD", the back of Sienna has XLE Limited and AWD pasted.
I'm not sure about your area, but in most areas you should be able to get 2007 below invoice or at invoice.
#2199 of 2209 Re: '07 Sienna Demo and damaged purchase [mtatech]
Aug 20, 2007 (1:30 pm)
Did I do the right thing?
That this dealership tried to sell you a 6,000 mile 2007 "demo", with body damage at MSRP is laughable. ha ha ha. Run away!
#2200 of 2209 Re: '07 Sienna Demo and damaged purchase [jipster]
Aug 27, 2007 (10:55 am)
I agree. 4000 miles means it's now a used car. That should put it at about 5-10% below invoice by itself.
The damage knocks another $800 (at least) off of that.
The dealer was DREAMING, no way it's worth that much. It's used and abused, literally.
#2201 of 2209 Re: more... [mtatech]
Sep 06, 2007 (8:41 pm)
If nobody bought the car, it would be even cheaper! All you sheep that jump on a $30k "deal" on a car that's not significantly better than a Chrysler minivan or Chevy Uplander, should have your heads examined!