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#1524 of 2209 Re: My 2004 Sienna's Transmission just got replaced (at only 16,000 KM) [scoti1]
May 11, 2005 (12:05 pm)
The hesitation problem I experienced back in 2003 (I also had a couple of posts relating to that problem) was improved by the TBS in 2003 (it happened less often after they applied TBS). During 2004, I only experienced hesitation problem 3-4 times. This time, I think it could be completely different story. On April 18, the day I sent my car for them to diagnose the problem after the "check engine" light turned on, the first thing they did was to apply a TBS to do ECM Recalibration (I am not sure the software they applied this time was the same with what they applied in 2003 or not, I will double check the invoice to find out the TBS number once I get home from work), but no change at all. The car was not just hesitating, it was almost undrivable, when I was driving on hightway, I could not drive at the speed more than 80km/h, and the RPM always showed around or more than 4000-5000 whenever I pressed the gas pedal (I hope the engine was not abused and damaged due to this), very scary experience, I had to keep flashing my emergency light to alert the drivers around me. As the last resort after the Toyota dealer spent 2 weeks to fix my car (during that time, I had no car to drive since Toyota refused to provide me loaner car), I think they had no choice but to replace the transmission. I have driven the car with new transmission for 1 week with 300 KM on it, so far it is much better and I haven't experienced any hesitation problem (yet!)
#1525 of 2209 Re: My 2004 Sienna's Transmission just got replaced (at only 16,000 KM) [donx]
May 11, 2005 (1:46 pm)
OK, I checked the invoices from 2003 and last month, here is the TSB numbers Toyota applied to my Sienna:
Nov 21, 2003, TSB TC007-03 TC3001 .8 T1 26 T2 99 89661-09101
April 18, 2005, TSB 1307 (ECM Calibration Update - Shifting Enhancement)
I wondered the TSB they applied on April 18, 2005 might be the new one, which is the same or similar to the one applied to Lexus ES330? I hope there will be somebody who can confirm this.
If so, I got a new Transmission and new TSB applied, I hope I will be OK for a while.
#1527 of 2209 Problem after Problem
May 13, 2005 (5:54 pm)
We got our Sienna in December of 2003 and it has been to the dealer over 20 times, with only 26,000 miles.
There is no solution to any of the problems!
The service is horrible.
The transmission has problems, the heating and a/c, the doors and liftgate, the tires, the moonroof, the dvd player, the seats(casing,seatbelt,and strength), the dashboard, the normal doors, the trim, and even the glove box!
The only thing they have done is change the oil and fix the 3rd row!
This is service you'd expect from a $100 used car not a $40k plus car
It is coming time to just ditch it before it ditches us!
Toyota has do perform a miracle for us to keep this car, or to even think of getting a car from either Lexus or Toyota.
They have lost every once of respect from us and might never get it back!
#1528 of 2209 Re: trac control [judy]
May 17, 2005 (11:43 am)
I can't believe it has taken me so long to resolve this issue (3-1/2 months). DarCars in Frederick Maryland has agreed to pay 50% after raising a stink. I have owned a car for thirty years and have never had problems like this. I contacted Toyota twice (the second cs rep. was nasty with me) and they weren't any help. Toyota can't or won't do anything because the dealerships are independently owned. Here's another catagory to add to my researching when I choose a car.
Two days before I put it in the shop the emission light came on. Need a new catalytic converter........In the shop it goes they found "additional codes" and not only does it need the hydrolic brake booster but the accuator. Additional $1100.00. Will it be the computer next? How could it show one code than another? I'd like to get rid of this lemon!!! I'll never buy another Toyota again.
Thanks for letting me vent. I feel better
Don't spend the extra bucks for the traction control.
May 18, 2005 (8:56 am)
NEVER drive a FWD or front torque biased AWD on adverse roadbed conditions without ABS & Trac!
If you value your life and that of your passengers.
#1530 of 2209 AWD-Tires at 38000 km
May 18, 2005 (1:08 pm)
Hi guys, I have been reading on here about the tire problems. At least I know I am not alone and am hope to use this as ammo when fighting with my dealer. I had to replace all 4 tires at $1300 CDN (list at $560 each). Had to be brought in from the US. Dunlop dealer gave a deal due to my problem but claim it is an alignment issue, not the tires. Toyota says it is a tire issue.
My biggest complaints about all this is I specifically asked the dealer before I leased this van (4 year lease) what my maitenance expenses would be and at no time was I told that the I would need a new set of tires ever 2 years. And the fact that the Toyato dealership who performed all the maitenance never told me my tires were wearing out until they were shot. Now Toyota has washed their hands and said it is Dunlop's problem. Is this part of this famous Toyota quality and service that I always heard about ?? I know this is my first and last Toyota product.
#1531 of 2209 Problems with Limited AWD
May 18, 2005 (2:46 pm)
I have been quietly reading the posts on this site. I bought a Toyota thinking I was getting the best quality product for $40K. I started to think that perhaps I had unrealistic expectations of what quality should be. The general impression of the Sienna is that it is a nice vehicle. The rash of problems we have had with this vehicle now have us not wanting another Toyota/Lexus product. I'm gun shy if there reallyis a quality product out there.
We've ignored the tinny front doors as "cheap materials".
The known transmission hesitation, which by the way is extremely irritating, is chalked up to poor design.
Terrible run flat tires, trade off for AWD.
Gas mileage WELL below sticker listings and far worse than the 2001 Chrysler Town & Country AWD it replaced.
But now with 16,400 miles we have had:
* The rear A/C failed last year and had to be repaired
* Sliding doors have had issues
* HID headlight failed
* Center speaker AMP failed and had to replaced
* Transmission shifting very rough. Dealer tried to update software and the engine control module failed and had to be replaced.
* Now the Rear A/C has failed again. The dealer now needs to rip out all of the a/c tubing and replace.
This is the 4th time in a year that the vehicle has been out of service for 2 days or more. As of tomorrow it will be out of service 6 of the last 30 days, and it looks like it will be there AT LEAST one more day past tomorrow.
The dealer has been trying to get things fixed but the fact is we shouldn't be having this level of issues at this point. My late 80's Chrylser K car was more reliable if you can believe that.
I registered a complaint with Toyota today and they are looking into it. Toyota had better be careful. In their quest to beat GM in volume, they better not develop GM's 80's Quality cars.
#1532 of 2209 Rust on bottom of doors
May 18, 2005 (6:16 pm)
I've just found this discussion site, and have read several messages about the same problem we're having-- rust on bottom of driver's door, despite the dealer having put on the "protective" tape.
Has anyone tried to get Toyota to give them a NEW door? We've had the van for 8 months, it's basically new, and I feel that the dealer's solution to just scrape and repaint is not adequate. Won't the rust just keep returning until after the 5 year warrantee is done and then my door will develop holes?
Thanks to anyone who would like to comment!
#1533 of 2209 Toyota Tops in Quality
May 19, 2005 (8:04 am)
And now today in USA Today, I saw the Sienna is rated the number 1 minivan in initial quality by JD Powers. LOL
Oh well, at least that means that not everyone is experiencing the same level of frustration which is some level of comfort I guess.