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Re: Thinking CX-7, READ THIS BEFORE YOU BUY SAVE $$$$ [aviboy97] by jbuswell
Jun 13, 2006 (12:22 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jun 12, 2006 9:27 am)

aviboy97,
 
Yes pretty much double the gas costs. My other SUV is a 2001 Pontiac Aztek GT, people poke fun at the exterior from time to time but I think it looks way better than your generic RAV4 or CRV. The interior on it is awesome, its a very useful vehicle, and gets awesome gas mileage. It averages about 26 mpg, considering its a 3.4l V6, and about the same size as the CX-7. It can also seat an adult between the two car seats in the back.
 
The only downside to the Aztek, is that GM didn't do a great job with the powertrain. I've gone through three GM transmissions at this point, after the last one broke just outside their warranty, I had it completely rebuilt from high-performance after market parts. That not only improved the performance and power, but I seem to be getting on average about 28 mpg out of the thing. I know this because both the in-dash computer and the old fashion way come out with the same numbers. I've got almost 80,000 miles on the Aztek, and its always given between 24 and 28 mpg since the first day I bought it.
 
I also stopped taking it to the GM dealer, and since then, no mechanical problems at all. Strange ?
 
In terms of the bumper. My wife backed the Aztek into the garage wall at our old house, big hole in the wall, but I just had to dust off the Aztek's rear bumper. She also backed it into a concrete wall at the same house, and it just had a minor scratch on the plastic bumper. My guess, the CX-7 would probably need a repair in the same situation.
 
I actually DO own one now, the FWD version, last tank got 15 mpg. I got the 10-12 mpg figure from the Grand Touring Model I test drove. The dealer said they filled the tank with 5 miles on the odometer, and it had been test driven close to 120 miles. I test drove it for about an hour with the sales guy. Which added about 30 miles to it, and the tank was below 1/2. To be fair to the dealer, they went out and tested the car pretty heavily after I pointed out the gas mileage issues. They got back to me the other day and said they weren't sure if they put 91 octane in it or not, and that might be part of the problem.
 
They're not the first dealer to say that either. There is no indication on the car, gas tank etc, that you should use premium fuel. The only two mentions are in the "getting started" booklet attached to the ignition, and the owners manual. With the high gas prices, I'd imagine most dealers would probably just dump 87 octane into them if they are unaware of the 91 octane requirement.
 
One thing I noticed that was interesting, I've gone to 4 dealers here in Ohio looking at these before I bought one down in Cincinnati. The first two dealers I went to had the AWD model window sticker showing 19 / 23 as the gas mileage. However, the last two dealers I went two, the exact same model vehicles with the same options had 18 / 21 as the gas mileage on the window sticker. My FWD Sport has 19 / 24 on it, the same as the 6s.
 
I'll keep you posted on how the mpg works out over time. Probably not too fair to judge it within the first 600 miles anyway as the engine is being broken in.
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Re: My Thoughts [mldj98] by jbuswell
Jun 13, 2006 (12:34 am)
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Replying to: mldj98 (Jun 12, 2006 6:49 am)

Underpowered off the line? Must have been something wrong with it. My CX-7 is doing 60 mph within a couple of seconds once I get out my driveway, I'd go as far as saying after driving it for a few days, from a stop, the thing accelerates better than the 6s. Good chance the dealer stuffed sub-91 octane fuel in it.
 
While the weather here in Ohio isn't quite Florida, it was 90 here the other day and fairly humid. The car was cold with the a/c on, and the fan set on 4 within a minute or two. The air was definately blowing freezing cold off the bat.
 
It sounds like you test drove the Grand Touring with the fancy climate control. I had the same fancy climate control in my 6s, and the a/c works fine in it. However, your complaint caught my attention because my mother in law complained about the a/c not working right in my 6s when she borrowed it, and my wife's aunt who borrowed it for a week complained of the same thing. They set the temp to 60, but never turned on the a/c, or in my wife's aunts case, she turned on the a/c but had the blower on low, so it took forever to cool the car down.
 
You probably should have mentioned it to the sales rep, they would have shown you how to set it correctly. Having driven the Grand Touring, I know the a/c works very very well. So I'd chalk it up to either user error or a faulty vehicle.
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Re: My Thoughts [kaalima] by mldj98
Jun 13, 2006 (5:28 am)
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Replying to: kaalima (Jun 12, 2006 1:11 pm)

didn't have the money? Are you kidding? What does that have to do with it? I currently drive a Lexus ES350 and am looking for an SUV for my wife and kids.....and by the way....does buying a CX-7 make you a rich person?
I don't know about you, but shelling out $30K on a vehicle is somewhat of a big issue with me.....when I want to buy....I compare.....it has nothing to do with cost! If you read some of the other posts it seems I am not the only one that has issues with it. My co-worker drives a mazda3 5 door and he loves it, but, he says his A/C stinks!
I have been in his car allot, great car, lousy A/C.
So think what you will.....that's your right.....and I was just throwing my .02 anyway.....by the way, do you wonder why Mazda has lowered it's warranty period? Hmmmmmmm....
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Re: My Thoughts [mldj98] by zoom49
Jun 13, 2006 (5:52 am)
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Replying to: mldj98 (Jun 13, 2006 5:28 am)

why Mazda has lowered it's warranty period?
Basic warranty was shortened but powertrain (turbo engine)
was greatly increased.
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Re: My Thoughts [jbuswell] by mldj98
Jun 13, 2006 (10:00 am)
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Replying to: jbuswell (Jun 13, 2006 12:34 am)

I have used dual climate control for years in different types of vehicles....the setting were correct. The salesman even told me he was not impressed with the A/C. But I didn't expect him to go any further, I mean he is trying to sell cars...when the new car manager asked him about the A/C he told him he was not impressed with the A/C. But that's all he said, he was in a tough position, again they are trying to sell cars, I understand. The reason we tried 2 types of CX-7 was to make sure it was an isolated incident with the grand touring model. The second model we test drove was the sport model, no climate control, just the old fasion knobs and buttons. The results we the same. Me and the salesman did the same type of test in the car I drove up in, turned on the car, set the A/C, waited 2-3 minutes and boom, ice cold air coming out of the vents, he admitted the same. If you also read in the other Mazda forums for the other models some of them have this same issue. So unless I drove 2 CX-7 that had some sort of malfunction going on with the A/C then it might just be the model itself. What I am going to do just to test it again, I will go to a different Mazda dealership and try the same thing and see what happens, who knows.....but I can say one thing for sure, it is not user error, especially since I have owned numerous vehicles with climate control as well as the saleman and the new car manager checking the settings on the vehicle as well....and as far as being underpowered, what I meant was when we on the freeway to merge there was some hestitation when the press firm on the gas.....but by no means would that be a deal breaker for me.....
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Re: My Thoughts [zoom49] by mldj98
Jun 13, 2006 (10:09 am)
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Replying to: zoom49 (Jun 13, 2006 5:52 am)

What the salesman told me was starting with all 07 models the warranty will go to 3/36....power train an additional 12K....roadside assistance will only be 3/36 as well.
From a consumer's point of view....does that make sense?
Ask a sales rep why Mazda is doing this.....the answer they gave me made no sense.
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Re: My Thoughts [mldj98] by zoom49
Jun 13, 2006 (9:54 pm)
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Replying to: mldj98 (Jun 13, 2006 10:09 am)

Yes 3/36 for bumper to bumper but 5/60 for powertrain
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Re: My Thoughts [zoom49] by mldj98
Jun 14, 2006 (3:29 am)
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Replying to: zoom49 (Jun 13, 2006 9:54 pm)

I understand the powertrain 5/60....
But why would a company reduce it's other portion of it's warranty program? What signal are they sending to the consumers? We use to warranty for 4/50 but now maybe our product is costing to much in warranty work so we will reduce it to 3/36? 5/60 powertrain is pretty much industry standard as compared to the likes of let's say Honda and Toyota....Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Mazda are bad cars by no means....in fact I use to think that if Mazda was running neck and neck with Honda and Toyota their warranty would put them ahead.....not anymore. In my opinion they just took a step back. Ask any Mazda salesman why Mazda is doing this and see what they say? Then come back to this forum and let us know, I am real curious to see what they tell you. The answer I got from the salesman I talked to was "there is no reason for it that he can thing of".
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Re: My Thoughts [mldj98] by zoom49
Jun 14, 2006 (5:47 am)
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Replying to: mldj98 (Jun 14, 2006 3:29 am)

I dont work for a car dealer and I have no idea why they changed their warranty. I'm sure that by lowering their basic bumper to bumper by a year and 12,000 they will save some money in warranty expense. However they increased their powertrain (most expensive) engine, transmission, AWD
by the same ammount. This will certainly cost them dollars. I'm assuming they increased their warranty to match the longer warranty offered by other car makers.
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Re: My Thoughts [zoom49] by mldj98
Jun 14, 2006 (9:11 am)
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Replying to: zoom49 (Jun 14, 2006 5:47 am)

Having said that, what signal do you think that sends to the consumers like us? So unless they plan on doing a press release to indicate why they are doing this we can only guess. I think they will not say anything about it because they want to keep it under the radar.
For all intense purposes Mazda is a good product, but by doing this they are sending a negative signal.
Thanks for your insights.

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