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SUVs Mazda CX-7 Mazda CX-7 vs. Nissan Murano
208 messages, Last post on Dec 26, 2008 at 8:05 AM
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Replying to: hpgator (Apr 19, 2007 8:08 am) |
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Replying to: hpgator (Apr 18, 2007 4:27 pm) Having driven a turbo before I can tell you that it's a very risky venture for the long term as they tend to burn out and also have mechanical issues after 60,000 miles. Determing which vehicles ride better depends on what you are looking for in a ride. It's obvious, the Murano is designed as cushier riding vehicle. The CX7 rides sportier and handles better. You can say that the Murano is a much better car all around, but that doesn't make it so. It simply means you like it better. Many people who drive the Murano, hate the CVT transmission. The only real commonality in these two vehicles is body styling. I drove a Murano and it just didn't do it for me. If I was going to spend a few thousand more, there are other vehicles worth looking at. The CX7 may not appeal to everyone, but it is still the best bang for the buck out there.
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Replying to: defreitasm (Apr 20, 2007 6:10 am) 1) On take-off the car is extremely "jumpy" (it's not the turbo yet either at under 2,000 revs) and tends to hesitate immediately aftewards. 2) Nav unit looks aftermarket and controls are poorly layed out. 3) Much noisier all around, and the turbo BOV sound gets annoying after a while (I've owned a WRX so I love turbo machines) even for me. I did like the leather and the instrument panel as well as the package price though. |
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Replying to: hpgator (Apr 20, 2007 9:54 am) I've never felt the jumpy part but there a PCM update for the Turbo Lag and once updated as all future models will be corrects this condition. It smooths out evrything and I can assure my vehicle is not jumpy and the lag is gone. 2) Nav unit looks aftermarket and controls are poorly layed out. It looks simliar to some of the ones I've seen. I don't know what the defintion of looks aftermerket means so I'll have to take your word for it. I have very little issues using the NAV and it's not something that I would expect to get to know on a test drive. In fact, the first time I drove one it didn't have the NAV. I don't normally pick a car based on how good it's NAV. I knew I wanted NAV and it really didn't matter to me how good it was. 3) Much noisier all around, and the turbo BOV sound gets annoying after a while (I've owned a WRX so I love turbo machines) even for me. The vehicle is not the noisest I've ever driven and certainly not the quietest. I don't hear the sound of the Turbo.
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Replying to: defreitasm (Apr 20, 2007 11:44 am)
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Replying to: maltb (Apr 20, 2007 12:53 pm) |
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Replying to: defreitasm (Apr 20, 2007 11:44 am) As far as the nav goes, I mean "aftermarket" in the sense that it's not integrated into the dash like Honda, Toyota, Nissan, etc. but rather folds flat to place a CD in. If you've ever bought a 4" double-DIN DVD navi unit (like this one from Eclipse) then you know that they slide out horizontally. I guess to each their own, but I'd like a dedicated cd/dvd slot with a screen that looks recessed to the dash. The Honda CR-V has the same style with the navi as the CX-7 and IMO that's just something else that can easily break (a motorized screen spells trouble). The car is noisy on the highways, but then again most cars usually are. I guess the difference for me was noise level in general, and it was just very rough probably due to the nature of the car and the wheels they used (more sporty, less noise reduction). Anyway, the CX7 is a good car, don't get me wrong. If they'd made it in a V6 model (not the CX9, that's a lot bigger) then I would have given it more consideration. The turbo I4 just is too much of a gas monster. |
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Replying to: hpgator (Apr 23, 2007 6:35 am) The update is fairly new but if you drove one in March, it probably was manufactured before the update and most dealers don't address updates until the cars are prepped just before delivery. In fact, I'm not sure this update is performed unless you complain about it. I never found the car to be a problem off the line except the turbo lag. It didn't bother me much, but with the update it is smoother. "As far as the nav goes, I mean "aftermarket" in the sense that it's not integrated into the dash like Honda, Toyota, Nissan, etc. but rather folds flat to place a CD in. If you've ever bought a 4" double-DIN DVD navi unit (like this one from Eclipse) then you know that they slide out horizontally. I guess to each their own, but I'd like a dedicated cd/dvd slot with a screen that looks recessed to the dash. The Honda CR-V has the same style with the navi as the CX-7 and IMO that's just something else that can easily break (a motorized screen spells trouble)." The motorized screen doesn't bother me and I don't keep my cars much past th warranty anyway. I can load 6 CDs at once and if I use MP3 cds that is a lot of music and I doubt I will open and close it that often. Again I don't buy a car based on how good it's NAV is. "The car is noisy on the highways, but then again most cars usually are. I guess the difference for me was noise level in general, and it was just very rough probably due to the nature of the car and the wheels they used (more sporty, less noise reduction)." I don't find it any worse than a lot of the cars I have owned the last 20 years. I have been in a few simliar luxury CUVs and find them slightly quieter. "Anyway, the CX7 is a good car, don't get me wrong. If they'd made it in a V6 model (not the CX9, that's a lot bigger) then I would have given it more consideration. The turbo I4 just is too much of a gas monster." I don't see a V6 as being any better on gas. I get 16-18 combo driving and 22-23 higway. I can't ask for much more than that. I did not want a 4 cyl vehicle till I drove the CX7. Based on several months of ownership and about 6000 the CX7 is a great car. It is as fun to drive as the first day I got it. It handles real well... not as good as my Jetta, but it is faster so it makes up for it. My wife used to fight over who got to drive the Jetta. Now she drives either car and sometimes I think she prefers the CX7. It's tough these days with some much competition and so many decent cars t choose from. I don't see a lot of bad choices out there but sometimes there are bad decisions |
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Replying to: hpgator (Apr 23, 2007 6:35 am) This is the average ownership costs for a Nissan Murano S AWD Cost of Ownership Depreciation $15,821 Financing $4,322 Insurance $7,494 State Fees $376 Fuel $8,776 Maintenance (Detail) $1,698 Repairs $589 Gas Guzzler Tax TBD Hybrid Tax Credit N/A Total 5-Year Ownership Costs $39,078 intellichoice value rating Vehicle Class Midsize Crossover 5-Year Ownership Cost $39,078 5-Year Cost, Similar Vehicles $41,324 Difference -$2,246 Final IntelliChoice Value Rating Better Than Average Now about for the same price here is the Mazda CX-7 Grand Touring AWD ownership costs... Cost of Ownership Depreciation $16,024 Financing $4,168 Insurance $7,696 State Fees $368 Fuel $9,209 Maintenance (Detail) $1,690 Repairs $757 Gas Guzzler Tax TBD Hybrid Tax Credit N/A Total 5-Year Ownership Costs $39,912 intellichoice value rating Vehicle Class Midsize Crossover 5-Year Ownership Cost $39,912 5-Year Cost, Similar Vehicles $40,055 Difference -$143 Final IntelliChoice Value Rating Average As far as paying for the two vehicles, the murano will save you about $800 in 5 years than the CX-7 around the same price, also Nissan wins in terms of depreciation and for fuel (even both using premium gas) Just another reason why the Murano in this case is better for your pocket now and in the long run. IF you dont belive me here are the links for the two For Murano... link title For CX-7... link title |
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Replying to: taz16 (Apr 28, 2007 8:05 am) Murano's exterior styling is still de bomb, however. Too bad one couldn't custom order...i.e. Tribeca's interior and Mazda CX-7 exterior....or Mazda's interior with Murano exterior. Now, that WOULD be awesome. But until an idea like that becomes a reality, I'll still with the CX-7, as is.  Vince. |
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