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#58 of 122 Re: When was Traction Control First Available? [autohound1]
Jul 13, 2007 (1:34 pm)
I have a 1999 4Runner SR5 4x4 with the hilander pkg(sports pkg with the key colored bumper's, hood scoop, 4.10 dif and what not) I have the ETC button, but it is not traction control. It is 'Electronic Controlled Transmission' which moves the shift points to a higher rpm for more gusto.(its a nice thing to have )
I have used my truck mainly in Minnesota. I've been through 8 winters, travled to Big Sky montana a couple times in the middle of winter, started the thing in -35F temperature, been through blizzards, some back-country roads of Idaho and Texas tropical storms. I currently have Michelin LTX M/S tires on there and have had no problems. They ride great, quiet, and feel rock solid on the road. No flats either, the Dunlop tires the truck came with sucked and had numerous flats(pop'd sidewalls) and lost control all the time in wet weather. I feel traction control is more of a mind safety thing. How cautious you are driving is your best bet. Don't count on 'traction control' to save you if you are spinning out at 70mph. If you hit black ice you're screwed no matter what. Best advice is to have a good set of tires(Michelin LTX MS) and use the 4high accordingly. For the times I am on wet ground and its in spring or fall with potential of ice formation I will run on 4High if I feel the truck may slip and disengage it when I make slow sharp turns. Not having traction control for me hasn't been a problem. I have driven both versions and various other 4runner setups since I used to be a New/Used Sales rep for Fred Haas Toyota World in Texas. Traction control should't be a determining point in your purchase. Engine, transmission, 2 vs 4x4, milage, truck history, price and cosmetics would be more of a concern I should think
I do recommend getting a 1999 or newer 4Runner. There were some suppension changes after the 1998 model to solve the 'sagging' butt end of the truck and made it a lot smoother of a ride.
Good luck in 4runner hunting and lemmie know how it goes!
#59 of 122 Re: When was Traction Control First Available? [autohound1]
Jul 13, 2007 (4:39 pm)
Traction control was first available in 2001, and continued on the 3rd gen until the last model, 2002. I happen to own a 2002 SR5 4WD, and I can tell you that the TRAC along with vehicle skid control (VSC) are quite handly when dealing with the slippery stuff. I live in NC, so we don't get much snow, but it performs flawlessly in either heavy rain or snow, although certainly quality tires play a big role as well.
BTW, VSC-equipped 4Runners (on other Toyotas too) have sensors that measure yaw rates (sideways movement) at each tire and brakes the wheel(s) that are in danger of sliding, helping prevent the driver from losing control.
I'd definitely pick a '99 or later model. The dash was restyled, fenders redesigned, and some suspension tweaks made.
The '99 & '00 SR5 models are only part time 4WD, which means you can only use 4WD off-road; these models don't have TRAC or VSC. Some of these SR5 models came with a manual tranny, although its quite rare.
The '99-'00 Limited models had a first for the 4R model, a multimode 4WD system. In normal driving, select 2wd, in wet or snow, there is a selectable "full-time" 4WD mode (with a center differential) where you can drive on pavement. Fiunally, there are the traditional 4WD part-time settings for high and low-gear ranges (center diff locked), only for off-road use. Some of these models came with a rear diferential locker, which is only for serious off-road use IMO. The Limited models also are more luxurious with a leather int, auto climate ctrl, rear heater, and painted fenders.
The '01 & '02 4WD models (SR5 & Limited) all came standard with the same mutlimode transfer case, 2WD, "full-time" 4WD mode, and part-time 4WD for high and low ranges. The added bonus of VSC and TRAC makes the '01 & '02 models a bit more safe IMO. Toyota eliminated the 5-speed tranny option and rear locker for these years, much to the chagrin of the hard-core off-road set, although the off-road version of TRAC, ATRAC, actually is a nice traction goodie for off-road use as well.
#60 of 122 Re: When was Traction Control First Available? [autohound1]
Aug 01, 2007 (8:06 am)
According to the Insurance Insititue for Highway Safety which studied 199 models, the 2001 4runner had fewer fatalities per million registered vehicles than any car manufactured between 1999 and 2002 except for the Mercedes E-Class sedan. The 01 4Runner had a death rate of 12 per million vehicles. Compare that to the similiarly sized Chevy Blazer which had a rate of 308 driver deaths per million. Most of these deaths were due to rollovers. Stagering.
The 2001 4Runner was one of the first moderately priced SUVs to make stability control standard. I would not buy a SUV without VSC unless safety is not a concern.
#61 of 122 Finally Bought an '02 Sport
Sep 26, 2007 (12:18 pm)
Thanks to the great info I received from my questions on this forum, I finally made a decision and ended up buying an '02 4Runner Sport Edition, 2wd. I think the color is Thundercloud (dark silver metallic looking). I was torn on the whole 2wd vs 4wd and the tc/vsc or not issues. What ended up swaying me the most was the deal I was able to get and knowing I won't ever take it 4-wheeling anyway. I was most concerned about handling in the rain. It does have fairly high mileage for the year, but for $9k w/ a good service history and in excellent condition, I couldn't walk away from the deal. Plus no sales tax in my state, since it was from a private party. This truck seems so well-built and absolutely rock solid and very tight driving/handling for a truck.
I was surprised how nice the cloth is on the sport seats. Very durable and breathable. It uses two different types of cloth material. It's different than the cloth in all the internet pictures I saw while looking at various models. Maybe it was a new material for 2002 or maybe it comes on the sport? I don't know, but I do like it (even though I originally had wanted leather). Also, I found that insurance is very affordable on this vehicle, even with generous coverage -- cheapest I've ever been able to get on any vehicle I've ever owned. That was a pleasant surprise. Anyhow, time to enjoy her now. Thanks again to all on this forum for the great info provided.
#62 of 122 '98 4runner fuel filter
Nov 05, 2007 (7:44 am)
My throttle respnse isnt what it should be and i have a sneaky suspicion that it might be the fuel filter. Any recommendations on how easy to replace or where exactly the fuel filter is?!?('98 limited edition 4x4)
#63 of 122 front differential drain plug
Nov 05, 2007 (7:51 am)
My '98 4runner is in desperate need of new differential fluid but the last idiot who had the the truck stripped the drain plug and now it is truly a pest to try and get the drain plug out. Im afraid of stripping it more or possibly cracking the transfer case. Yike$$! so any advice on my situation??
#64 of 122 Re: front differential drain plug [rzkibiz]
Nov 05, 2007 (8:28 am)
I had a similar problem when i had my fluids changed out at some Jon-Smith shop vs. a dealership. The dealership was able to order a new screw as well as air-impact out the old one which solved the problem.
#65 of 122 Engine running "cold"
Dec 03, 2007 (5:51 pm)
Hi there! I have just bought a 99 4runner, 2.7 liters, manual gear, at 50k miles. Great car! I have just made my first trip and took 110 miles of very cold weather. The engine runned "cold" all that mileage. Also "drunk" a lot of gas ... does s'o knows why? That happened?
In time...there is another car been sold. It is 2.001 model, has a 3.4 liters engine and automatic transmition. Same mileage. In your opinion s it worthy to spend U$ 12k and trade in my 99?
Thanks a lot. In time... I`m writing from Brazil, Sao Paulo.
#66 of 122 Re: Engine running "cold" [avoidspam]
Dec 03, 2007 (9:15 pm)
Your '99 4Runner is a very low mileage car! Unless you're having serious mechanical problems with it, I don't see why you would want to trade it in for the additional expense.
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#67 of 122 99 Limited Stuck in 4-Wheel drive.
Dec 08, 2007 (9:25 pm)
I hit the button to engage the 4-wheel drive on my 99 4Runner Limited, but the dash indicator wouldn’t lock-in green. When I realized I had a problem I hit the button to turn it off, but dash indicator continued to flash and now it won’t stop with button in the ON or OFF position. The truck drives / feels like 4-wheel drive is engaged, but now I can’t turn it off. Fluid levels in the differential and transfer case are full. I’m afraid to drive it, don’t want to cause any damage. I’m equally afraid to take it to the shop without same idea of what the problem might be…….. Help…..Please.