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#108 of 209 2004: Toyota installed defective nav/multi function display
May 20, 2008 (1:30 pm)
In 1/2005 Toyota sent its dealers a tech bulletin (EL002-05) describing a defect in its 2004 Highlander, Prius and Land Cruiser models: "Some customers may experience various malfunctions occurring with the multi display". They state that a revised multi-display unit had been developed to resolve the problem and that a replacement unit would be installed IF the malfunction occurred within the 36K mile warranty period. When my 04 Highlander unit began to fail I contacted Toyota and they stated that yes, there was a potential problem with the system but that the repair would only be covered thru the warranty period. It's obvious Toyota hoped the faulty wiring would hold together through the warranty period and thus free them from responsibility. Toyota is reaping more profits from its error every time one of these units malfunctions - a new unit for the Highlander costs $5500. On http://techno-fandom.org/~hobbit/cars/mfd there is a dissection of a failed Prius multi-display unit. They then compare it with a disassembled working unit. They show clearly that part of the wiring was re-engineered in order to remedy the problem. If you're comfortable working with a computer circuit board, the website shows the repair procedure. I am looking into a replacement unit from oemvalue.com. Shame on Toyota for this cover-up. An alert to used car buyers: AVOID TOYOTA AND LEXUS 2004 MODELS WITH NAVIGATIONAL/MULT-FUNCTION DISPLAY UNIT!
#109 of 209 Re: 04 LC Navigation needed... Help!!! [allaccess]
May 20, 2008 (3:25 pm)
Check out my post #108 re Toyota cover-up of nav. display unit defect. Apparently, vibration and climate conditions put stress on soldered components in the circuit board. The Toyota "Consumer Experience" contact explained that the company is only liable for problems during the warranty period, even if a notice of malfunction was posted. They closed the case and I was not even able to talk to a zone rep. I was also told that a letter to the corp. from an attorney would be ignored. A class action suit is deserved here.
#110 of 209 Re: 04 LC Navigation needed... Help!!! [allaccess]
Jun 02, 2008 (5:02 am)
allaccess, any luck in getting the unit rebuilt? Have you stumbled upon a replacement unit at a fair price? An assistance is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
#111 of 209 Re: Landcruiser Navigation DVD to include Greece [luluthi178]
Jun 19, 2008 (3:23 pm)
European DVD map disc will not work in US built navigation units.
#112 of 209 Re: 03 land cruiser nav display [chicane]
Jun 19, 2008 (3:25 pm)
"REAR OFF" prevents the rear seat entertainment from being operated.
#113 of 209 2003 Landcruiser Navi ECU location
Jul 28, 2008 (2:55 pm)
I have been told the Navigation ECU is bad on my 2003 Landcruiser. The dealer that is fixing it is out of town. They asked that I get them the part # from the current ECU so they can order a remanufactured part and order the correct piece. I know the navigation head is under the passenger seat but where exactly is the ECU and the part number on that ECU?
#114 of 209 Nav system receiver
Aug 05, 2008 (1:45 pm)
One month ago a squirrel nested under the hood of my 2006 LC and chewed the wiring harness. I took the vehicle to my dealer from whom I have purchased 3 other Toyotas and they estimated the damage to over $4000, insurance picked up most except for deductible. Two weeks later I have my vehicle back and two days later I realize that my Nav system is no longer tracking my current position by at least 55 miles it seemed to have lost its compass. I took it back and said that I think the antenna must be disconnected when they were doing all the work behind the dash. They had the vehicle all day and called and said it was just a calibration problem hmmmm. Two days later same problem again they have the car and say that it needs a new antenna (surprise) to the tune of $552 for parts and another $150 to install. Now I am in a position of who shot John was this directly connected to the original problem and they should have included it in the estimate and the insurance company would have covered or did they cause the problem all I know is that the unit worked when I took it in for the initial repair and does not now.
Does anyone know where I can get OEM parts for the Fujitsu unit other than Toyota? I have Googled with no luck also a good manual. Also shouldn't I be able to hook up an external receiver to the unit to see if it works as I do with my laptop navigation? If so is the receiver connected to the ECU or the indash unit? And last how do I remove the indash unit? In the mean time I intend to take this up with Toyota.
Thanks in advance.
#115 of 209 Re: Nav system receiver [lc2006]
Aug 09, 2008 (5:52 am)
I used to order many OEM parts from Grape wine toyota in texas. See if they can give you a discount.
On a side note, in general, if you are a person who keeps your car beyond the bumper to bumper warranty, it may make sense to skip the factory navigation. Two reasons, the maps go out of date in a couple of years and dealers charge crazy amounts for a map update.
Secondly, the newer units like in the Landcruiser also control other things like the heat/ac, radio etc. So, if the unit fails you are forced to fork out over $5000 for a replacement. It may seem a bit inconvenient, but for the number of times I use it, I would just rather have a portable unit in the car.
It may sound trivial, but the reason I went with another truck when I upgraded from my 2002 TLC was that I couldn't order the new TLC without the NAV package. Although they do say it is an option, you can't get one in without it. Basically it is *mandatory option*.
#116 of 209 Re: Nav system receiver [mercara]
Aug 09, 2008 (1:09 pm)
Thanks you have reinforced my feelings about paying $550 plus labor for an antenna (receiver) when I can get a top of the line portable unit for much less. What it does do however is reduce my trade in value on an already depressed market for SUVs. My choices are fix it, drive it until the wheels fall off, or take my lumps when I trade. It just irks me that the unit worked fine until I took it in for the original problem and now it does not and they want to charge me.
#117 of 209 2005 landcruiser gps overide
Aug 13, 2008 (4:28 pm)
Is there any way to allow the gps unit to be programed while moving? thanks, bob