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#438 of 496 Re: 2003 Honda Civic Hybrid Nightmare [coffeebean10]
Jul 10, 2011 (12:51 pm)
Coffebean 10 (I'll just call you "CB"),
My clutch failed at 25K miles and many others failed at 40K, 50K, 75K etc. In an 8-year old civic hybrid, your most likely failure is the battery pack. In a manual transmission, over 100K miles is usually time for the clutch pad replacement. I'm not sure how the Prius is doing, but I don't hear much about CVT failures there. On the other hand Consumer Reports doesn't seem to list significant transmission problems in the Civic Hybrid--in spite of the listing on this forum and TSB 07-049.
I expect you will have to pay for it, but it doesn't hurt to ask (insist, complain, threaten?) Good luck, CB
Jul 15, 2011 (7:37 pm)
Let me chime in with my experience with this issue. Background:
2005 HCH, 127K miles, No other major issues besides the recall for the IMA reprogramming back in '06/07ish (if one calls that major).
Judder has been in existence for quite some time, but post 100k. It seemed like a nuisance but has not progressed into becoming a problem. I never new about this issue because I could not quite describe it. I called it hesitation from 0, but didn't think to type in CVT problems 2005 Honda Civic Hybrid into a Google Search. Whoops! Not like it matters, though.
I brought the civic in and the tech called it a "jutter." Go search that in google and wind up here and many other forums with very irritated people / enemies of Honda. Well the dealer told me that they were going to perform the warranty service bulletin work on the HCH and called late in the day to tell me that they need to keep it over the weekend because this servicing did not fix the issue. Go figure that when I find this forum, my only option is to get another tranny that may go bad in 10k or 127k. All I know is that my HCH is okay for now..., but I will: 1) keep losing equity, 2) face IMA failures soon at a price tag of ~$2,500, and 3) need to dish out $2 - 6,000 for a transmission (why the variance in price, I will never know).
So, it looks like I will be car shopping over the weekend. Time to cut my losses and move on. But a note to the Honda haters in this forum... my previous '97 Civic LX lasted 8 years, resisted my bat out of hell high school years (yeah, I was hard on that car), took 312k miles, and still sold for $1,500. I took care of that car and it served me well. On average, I suppose I am still in the green with Honda, but I will never get a CVT with them again that's for sure.
More news from the dealer to let you know what they did / propose they will do / and how much. Either way, I will most likely refuse serving and seek trade in promptly!
#440 of 496 Re: '05 HCH with judder [crimesceneuf]
Jul 19, 2011 (1:17 pm)
update on this case: dealer took a few days to work on this. They tried service bulletin fixes, no dice. They asked me to change my CVT fluid for a bit less than 100 bucks, and that seemed to do the trick.
I can still feel a bit of a hesitation, but it is mounds better than before. It seems like what someone posted here a few months back makes sense. Change your CVT fluid and change it often (as often as you change your oil). I am going to work by that mantra and save up for a new vehicle. It seems like the going rate for a '05 HCH is about $4,500. As long as I can get one more year out of this car before the IMA goes or before the transmission goes, I suppose I am a leg up.
Time to start saving!
#441 of 496 Re: '05 HCH with judder [crimesceneuf]
Jul 25, 2011 (6:28 am)
This all sounds exactly like what I have been finding when I shopped for a HCH this past month. I already own a HCH (03) with a 5 speed manual tran. I fixed the IMA pack based on an article I read in Home Power magazine last summer.
I wanted a second HCH, with a CVT, for the wife. But every place I looked either wanted waaayyy too much for a working HCH or, for a reasonably priced HCH, the tranny and IMA pack were trashed. Honda indeed made a series of lemons with the CVT trannys! And probably the battery packs too! Keep away from Honda hybrids! Especially the early ones! (2000-2010). Maybe the new models are ok, but only time will tell. I would rather not be the test mouse though. Not at those prices anyway! LoL!
If you really want a HCH with a CVT though, get used to the idea of a $100 flush and fill tranny servicing every year! (This a DIY. A service place would want about 2 to 3 times that much.)
#442 of 496 Re: '05 HCH with judder [marcello1]
Jul 25, 2011 (8:09 am)
Do you have a link to that IMA replacement article? How difficult was this?
The DIY transmission flush is ONLY IF you have the right tools or you will get insanely frustrated. Honda puts those fittings on tight tight tight; so do your research first and make sure you have everything you need. Once you do it, you will find it to be pretty easy...but the first time will be a hoot.
#443 of 496 Re: '05 HCH with judder [marcello1]
Aug 08, 2011 (5:29 am)
I just ran across this thread. I will likely be rebuilding my IMA pack very soon as well. How did that work out for you? Did it make a big difference? Is it still functioning well? Thoughts or suggestions on a used pack?
#444 of 496 honda civic hybrid transmission
Sep 10, 2011 (9:22 pm)
Can someone explain to me what a slipping transmission sounds/feels like on a hybrid? I just bought a used 2007 honda civic hybrid and it drives very peculiarly.
#445 of 496 Re: honda civic hybrid transmission [wilbressl]
Sep 11, 2011 (6:42 am)
You should describe how the car is driving. Hybrid cars are very different than regular cars, especially in the transmission. They have no definate 'shift' between gears as they are infinitely variable between low and high range. Several people have asked if the trans was slipping when riding in my civic hybrid. Here is one completely torn apart if it will help you http://hchdoctorstransmissionpage.yolasite.com This is a 2008 model, but the transmission is the same as in a 2007.
#446 of 496 Re: honda civic hybrid transmission [wilbressl]
Sep 11, 2011 (12:23 pm)
If you test drove the car before you bought it, you would have noticed how it drove.
The HCH (Honda Civic Hybrid) transmission is called a CVT, which stands for Continuously Variable Transmission, which speaks for itself.
Jan 22, 2012 (8:25 am)
our 2004 HCH goes in P,R,N,D,L,and S but it doesnt drive as if its in neutral. any help? btw weve changed the flywheel already....this is our second C.V.T. that we replaced ourself....at 182,000 miles the original tranny failed....this new one failed at 189,000 miles.