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Honda S2000 vs. Nissan 350Z

183 messages,  Last post on Sep 08, 2007 at 11:04 AM

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What is this discussion about? Honda S2000, Nissan 350Z, Coupe, Convertible


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#97 of 183
Re: lol [anythngbutgm] by accelerator
May 17, 2007 (12:14 pm)
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Replying to: anythngbutgm (May 17, 2007 11:39 am)

In defense of space, if someone is looking at a two seater roadster, there are ways around the space issues. The original roadsters used to luggage racks where you could bungie cord your duffle bags to (I believe the original Miatas had them, IIRC).
 
Regarding the piece-parts approach, Ford did the same thing with the Mustang. Look at the air vents of the mustang and the F150. They are the same. Even the Ford Ligtning had brakes from an F250 (or was it the differential?). It makes economical sense to share the parts bin, as long as you are taking the quality parts. As much as I love the Sky's look, I fear it may be another Fiero. While the Fiero looked great... I'll just leave it at that.
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Re: Z Vs. s2k [trucktricks] by habitat1
May 17, 2007 (12:38 pm)
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Replying to: trucktricks (May 17, 2007 7:47 am)

"I ran a comparison of the Solstice with the S2000. In all due respect, the Solstice is a landslide winner in this comparison....What am I missing here???"
 
With all due respect, you didn't "run" any real comparison, you looked at a bunch of paper statistics. If you got your butt in the seat of an S2000 and Solstace GTP back to back, you'd (hopefully) figure out what you are missing. And it's a lot.
 
The S2000 outperforms the Solstace in every category. Not by a large margin from a "statistical" comparison, but an enouromous amount with respect to how a refined sports car should feel. A quote from the Edmunds editors in their review of the Solstace GTP:
 
The combination of heavy steering, imprecise shift action and fading brakes led us into trouble in one decreasing-radius corner. Wide Goodyear Eagle tires and the GXP's standard stability control kept us on our intended line, but it was a little lesson that while this car has some serious capability, it's not a very handy package.
 
Regardless of its impressive 65.2-mph speed in our slalom test, the boys at the test track believe the GXP's poor control feel and lack of a close-ratio six-speed transmission will lead it to be overlooked by people who are really savvy about sports cars. Chief Road Test Editor Chris Walton notes, "The unintuitive clutch uptake and heavy-handed shift action don't provide the driver with the kind of no-brainer experience a sports car should."

 
If you think a big boxy vinyl sided McMansion in the suburbs "beats" Frank Lloyd Wrights Fallingwater because it has 2 more bedrooms and three and a half more bathrooms, go for it. And park your Pontiac in the garage. But for those that seek precision, performance and refinement in a high quality package, there really is no comparison between the Solstace and the S2000.
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Re: Z Vs. s2k [accelerator] by trucktricks
May 17, 2007 (1:15 pm)
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Replying to: accelerator (May 17, 2007 10:09 am)

Okay, so I just dug a little deeper on the cost issue.
 
MSRP for the Solstice is $26,515. If you add air (it is optional), the total comes to $27,475. This compares to 34,250 MSRP for the S2000. That is a $6875 difference. That is a huge number …. as in a cruise vacation to Hawaii for my wife and I. Knock $3000 off of each one for proper deal making and you still have a huge difference.
 
Don’t know about the reliability thing. My latest experience with a GM vehicle has been with my 2002 Tahoe. It has been virtually bulletproof for its 129,000 miles. Probably too soon to tell on the Pontiac. But with 100,000 miles on the warranty, I must say I am not the least bit concerned.
 
I am leaning toward the automatic which was on the Solstice I drove. It is a snappy shifting unit also used on Cadillac CTS, STS, SRX and some BMWs. That’s another $850. (There goes the captain’s preferred deluxe cabin with porthole windows.)
 
As far as the weight, if you assume a 175# driver, the Solstice comes in at 12.1 lbs/HP and the S2000 is 12.8 lbs/HP. Pretty close there. But the fatter torque curve would clearly give the advantage to the Solstice in terms of raw performance. And at $3.70/gal premium fuel, that 31 MPG looks pretty good to me………..
 
Styling wise, again very subjective, I like the cleaner, simpler lines of the Solstice or Honda over the Sky. Kinda reminds me of an AC Cobra which is my all time favorite.
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Re: Z Vs. s2k [habitat1] by trucktricks
May 17, 2007 (2:19 pm)
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Replying to: habitat1 (May 17, 2007 12:38 pm)

Unfortunately, I don't have any "test tracks" here to do my comparisons. Besides, I am buying this car to drive on the streets and highways.
 
Also, you get a D- in spelling.
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Re: Z Vs. s2k [trucktricks] by fedlawman
May 17, 2007 (7:32 pm)
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Replying to: trucktricks (May 17, 2007 1:15 pm)

Hey, I just noticed that the Solstice is $90,000 cheaper than the Aston Martin Vantage and $175,000 less expensive than the Ferrari F430 Spider!
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Re: Z Vs. s2k [accelerator] by donquixote30
May 17, 2007 (7:36 pm)
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Replying to: accelerator (May 17, 2007 5:28 am)

Thanks for the offer. I reside in New Rochelle, NY. Does the $28,500 includes handling charges? It sounds too good to be true. Nevertheless, I would love to give them a call.
 
Thanks again!
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Re: Z Vs. s2k [trucktricks] by donquixote30
May 17, 2007 (7:54 pm)
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Replying to: trucktricks (May 17, 2007 7:47 am)

Just read your question. I believe others have answered it as well or better than I would have. At any rate, I believe you are comparing apples with pears, raw torque/power versus craftiness, handling superiority, and precision.
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Re: Z Vs. s2k [trucktricks] by claires HOST
May 17, 2007 (9:31 pm)
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Replying to: trucktricks (May 17, 2007 2:19 pm)

It'd be great if we can leave grammar/spelling critiques out of the discussion. Since this is the 350Z vs. S2K topic, the Solstice/S2K comparison is off-topic here, but you're welcome to create a new discussion comparing the two vehicles.
#105 of 183
Re: Z Vs. s2k [donquixote30] by accelerator
May 18, 2007 (6:19 am)
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Replying to: donquixote30 (May 17, 2007 7:36 pm)

The dealership name is Bankston Honda in Lewisville, Texas and yes, it does include the handling charges. Ask for "Scott P". He is their S2000 Guru and he knows a lot! He is a straight up guy but as with any car purchase, remember the sales person is not going to be joining you for Christmas Dinner so keep your guard up.
 
He had one guy fly down from South Carolina and drove the car back because their prices are so good. Also, if you want to use Leasecompare.com, they will still sell the car at the same price, doesn't matter who. If you decide to make the trek down here, let me know and I'll give you my real name so I can get the $100 referral. In April, they had 11 and now they are down to 3 or 4 (2 NFR and 2 silverstones). Their web site is http://www.bankstonhonda.com and the inventory page is http://www.bankstonhonda.com/index.cfm?action=inventorysearch&subaction=searchli- stnew&inventorytype=New&model=S2000&searchtype=allnew&zipcode=75057. Looks like they only have the 1 silver now. I can let Scott know you may be contacting him, if you like. Just let me know.
#106 of 183
Re: Z Vs. s2k [claires] by accelerator
May 18, 2007 (6:32 am)
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Replying to: claires (May 17, 2007 9:31 pm)

Sorry about the off topic, claires, I started a new thread for S2000 and the Sky/Solstice.
 
Honda S2000 vs Saturn Sky/Pontiac Solstice

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