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183 messages, Last post on Sep 08, 2007 at 11:04 AM
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Replying to: fedlawman (May 13, 2007 1:34 pm) This is pure therapy for an old person. Thanks again and take care. |
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Replying to: fedlawman (May 13, 2007 1:34 pm)
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Replying to: donquixote30 (May 13, 2007 1:07 pm) I'm curious as to what you consider "massive depreciation". I bought my 2005 S Cab with an MSRP of $102k+ for $92k in September 2005. Today, 19 months and 13.6k miles later, I think I could sell it privately for close to $80k. Maybe I'm being optimistic, but there are still people in the DC area that think a $3k discount on a new 911 is a good deal, and would be looking at a 2007 MSRP of over $105k for a comparably equiped car. As I've exhibited, I'm a big fan of the S2000. That said, it would be a little tough going back to one from a 911S. Especially for me, because I'd be trading a "family car" for a two seater in the eyes of my daughters. Actually, same holds true for the 2-seat GT3. So neither of those are realistic temptations for me. Good luck with whatever you decide. But if you do go for the GT3, I would budget an extra $6k for a couple of sessions at the Porsche driving school. I'll join you for one of them. 
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Replying to: dat2 (May 13, 2007 7:16 pm) The videos on the website are also entertaining. |
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Replying to: habitat1 (May 13, 2007 9:10 pm) By "massive depreciation" I mean a current 22% hit on a 2006 997S delivered on August, 2005. Your case is a bit different, you bought a 2005 convertible in September, after the 2006s 997S began to arrive. As a result of these timing differences, I got only a 2 1/3% discount as oppossed to your 10% discount. Naturally, I'm impacted more dramatically than you do. Insofar as the 997 GT3 is concerned, it is not my intention to push it even close to its limits but rather to experience its character (sound, purity of feedback, power/torque, etc.)on both street and track environments. As you know, not every GT3 owner is necessarily a hard core, track-oriented person. I'm still undecided with respect to buying a 2007 S2000. However, I probably will. The lowest quote I have received is $29,500.
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Replying to: donquixote30 (May 14, 2007 7:36 pm) I paid $32,000 for a 2002 S2000 in November 2001 and thought I got a heck of a deal. The Edmunds "TMV" at the time was $36,800, $4,000 OVER MSRP. So $29,500 seems like a no-brainer, if you like the car. "As you know, not every GT3 owner is necessarily a hard core, track-oriented person." I would have said that about "regular" 911's and even Turbos, but the GT3 does tend to appeal to the more hard core drivers. According to my dealer, the settings on the PASM are dialed up a notch or two on the GT3, making for a jolting ride over rough streets even in the "regular" mode. "Sport" mode can be downright painful, except on a track or very smooth highway. I am pretty sure the GT3 would be a hoot to drive - for all the reasons you cited (especially the 8,400 rpm redline)- but I doubt I'd have driven it daily the way I do my 911S. As long as the buyer is aware of that, it's their money. But it's not exactly an easy car to find to test drive. Every one of the dealers I've asked has sold out their allocation way in advance and they only way to get a test drive is to bribe an existing owner.
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Replying to: habitat1 (May 16, 2007 2:41 pm) By the way, if you are interested in driving a 997 GT3, I would suggest joining Rennlist. The core 997 GT3 forum participants are very committed to their beloved track toy and I have no doubt would let you drive their GT3s. Indeed I have been invited to drive a couple of them without solicitation. These enthusiasts are very friendly, extremely knowledgeable about their sport, and have a great sense of humor to boot.
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Replying to: donquixote30 (May 16, 2007 5:20 pm)
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Replying to: donquixote30 (May 16, 2007 5:20 pm) Solstice vs S2000 260HP vs 237HP 260 lb-ft  2500rpm vs 162 lb-ft 6800 (WOW!) 22/31 MPG vs 20/26 MPG P245/45R 18 tires vs P245/40ZR 17‘s 100,000 mile powertrain warranty vs 60,000 XM radio vs not available Now here is the clinker: $25,057 vs $31,637 Now styling of course is an entirely subjective thing but the Soltice looks much more up-to-date to me. What am I missing here???
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Replying to: trucktricks (May 17, 2007 7:47 am) You are missing the weight difference of the two cars, the Honda reliability, S2000 proven track record, and residual value. If I may chime in here, I don't think you can get a Solstice GXP at $25,057, can you? That is the invoice pricing and you haven't added any options yet. There is more to than just numbers on paper, the subjective factors. Personally, the S2000 fits me. I'm fairly slender (140#, 5'9"). In the S, I'm planted; in the SOL, there was not enough bolster support for me, I slid side to side. The nice thing is that all three (S2000, Sky, and Sol) are all produced in limited numbers so the uniquness remains in tact. I did stop a guy on the street who was more than happy to talk about his Sky R/L. He was a considerably larger man, height and width wise and said he preferred the Sky because he thought it looked like a mini corvette, not the mention he could fit better in the Sky. He got the 5speed automatic and said it was smooth. I haven't heard that the stick is very smooth; perhaps that will be addressed in 2008 models. Either way you go, let us know what you think after you drive them.
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