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Coupes & Convertibles Honda S2000 Honda S2000 vs. Nissan 350Z
183 messages, Last post on Sep 08, 2007 at 11:04 AM
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Replying to: habitat1 (Jun 05, 2007 10:34 am)
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Replying to: dat2 (Jun 05, 2007 10:57 am) Boxster S - 295hp / 2990 lbs. Is 10 extra HP really able to overcome a 600 lb weight disadvantage? Even the 350Z coupe weighs 350 lbs more than the Boxster S. |
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Replying to: dat2 (Jun 05, 2007 10:57 am) I probably have a different definition than you of "extremely fast". Using 0-60 as the basis (only because that's what everybody quotes, but I prefer 0-100 as the metric) here are my definitions and a few examples I've driven: "Extremely Fast": under 3.7 seconds. Porsche 911 Turbo, Ferrari 430. "Very Fast": 3.8-4.2 seconds. 911S, Corvette, AMG E63, Ferrari 360. "Fast": 4.3-4.7 seconds. M5, M3, 911 (base). "Very Quick": 4.8 to 5.2 seconds. 335i, Cayman S, Boxster S. "Quick": 5.3 to 5.7 seconds. S2000, 350Z, Z4. By my definition, the 350Z might go from "Quick" to "Very Quick" next year, but I will doubt it will make it to "Fast", let only "Very" or "Extremely". Please note, thaqt I don't consider acceleration the most important metric of a sports car. Give me an S2000, and I'll have more fun driving it than an E63 - at least after I get one or two drag races out of my system. 
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Replying to: habitat1 (Jun 05, 2007 12:41 pm) BTW, the 07 350Z would rank in your "very quick" class now, CD just tested a model without limited slip at 5.2 sec, 13.7 in the quarter. Next year with roughly 30 more horses we should see that figure easily slip below 5 sec, which is commendable for a vehicle that rings in at a price below anything you mentioned (maybe getting into your fast cat). And of course I agree accel alone does not make a sporting car. Example all the midsize sedans that are nearly as quick as some sports cars these days. And to those people comparing the Z to a barge in driving precision, how do you explain the 06 Z winning the balls to the wall track competetion in CD last year, beating out the STI, EVO, S2000, RX8, etc. That must have been difficult with a car that had the precision of, what was it, a butter knife or something?
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Replying to: dat2 (Jun 04, 2007 12:33 pm) |
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Here is the Car and Driver actual test results for the automatic: Read and weep!!! C/D TEST RESULTS: Zero to 60 mph: 5.2 sec Zero to 100 mph: 14.7 sec Zero to 130 mph: 37.4 sec Street start, 5-60 mph: 5.9 sec Top speed (drag limited): 141 mph NICE!! What am I supposed to weep about? According to a road test from your Car and Driver gurus, the 2002 model S2000 I had clocked a 0-60 of 5.4, 0-100 of 13.9 and a top speed of 155 mph. Good for Pontiac to gear the Solstice to achieve a 0-60 time of 5.2 seconds, but that's exactly why 0-100 mph, with a couple more gear changes and less dependent upon "launching" is a more relevent test. I'm sure someone as knowledgeable as you knows those C&D guys hold the brake while flooring an automatic transmission. Clearly, after you've mashed your foot to the floor in the slushbox Solstice and done your 0-60 sprint, it's all downhill from there. I think you need to get out the hankies for the tears you'll shed if drag racing is your gig. By the way, my 5-passenger 1995 Maxima SE 5-speed with 155,000 miles has a top speed of 142 mph. "NICE"? As far as a manual transmission vs. slushbox in a sports car, if you don't get it, you don't get it. Although fedlawman is correct in pointing out that GM's manual transmissions are not exactly the cat's meow. |
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Replying to: dat2 (Jun 06, 2007 12:20 am) I was referring to 0-100 MPH (not KPH). By "metric" I meant standard of measurment, not the metric system. I should have been clearer.
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Is it me or does TrickTrucks come off like a GM employee or one from their advertising agency? First he successfully hijacked the thread away from the SC vs. Z conversations, then continues with the comparisons to the GM car over and over. Guess he's trying to build brand awareness, but enough already mate...
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