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Replying to: blueiedgod (Jun 28, 2006 12:49 pm) Because it is impractical and impossible when it comes to the emergency avoidance maneuvers. I consider that I drive much better than the average driver. I was in the military service driving military vehicles in a wide variety of conditions, I took several defensive driving classes, I can drive manual for hours without using clutch, for instance, but nothing would help anyway in the situation that I have described a couple of postings above. Just because I do not do stunts everyday, my reflexes are not good enough, and could not match the electronics of my XC90, although, in theory, I new exactly what need to be done. Some countries, Japan for example, have very stringent testing to get a driver's license. Yes, but not to the degree of teaching the defensive driving anyway. In the US, we compensate for lack of driver's skill with bigger, heavier more electronic laden vehicles. This is not true. We drive bigger vehicles because they a) cheaper and b) we still can afford buying more gas than people in other countries. And when it comes to electronics, the European or Japanese versions of the same vehicle are pretty much the same. I guess, it would be too much to ask people to be responsible for their own actions. Yes it would, because the price for it is the death or severe injury. |
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Jun 28, 2006 12:49 pm) There is no training or testing program that will make drivers behave perfectly, or give them super-human abilities.
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Replying to: calhon (Jun 28, 2006 10:22 pm) No, but you can have minimum standards. Having driven for a number of years in Germany, I can say that while it is a fast experience, the drivers are predictable in behavior, and follow the rules of the road. I think this is due to three factors: 1. Mandatory driving classes before a license is issued. 2. The expense of owning and driving a vehicle in Germany. 3. Really stiff fines and very serious police officers. |
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Replying to: volvomax (Jun 27, 2006 8:10 am) Obviously, you do not know what you are talking about - just mindlessly repeating buzzword from sales booklet. There is NOTHING special about steel used in Volvo. It is all about the basic engineering concept of stronger cage and predictable deformation in crumple zones. There are many ways to achieve that. And if anyting - excessive weight is Volvo's problem. Are you capable about discussing anything but Volvo's marketing spin on comon engineering solutions?
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Replying to: volvomax (Jun 27, 2006 8:29 am) And if you have actually read and comprehended what I had written you would not post nonsense. What I have written in the second paragrpah is that Honda has ANOTHER sensor, in ADDITION to yaw sensor in stability control. Is it that hard to read?
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Replying to: dae (Jul 03, 2006 5:16 pm) It's not just marketing. Volvo DOES use the steel that is several (I think x4) stronger that the normally used one. And Max usually KNOWS, what he is talking about, as he gets his info not just from the chat rooms. And, actually, Volvo XC90 is the lightest of 3 - Honda Pilot, Acura MDX, Volvo XC90. |
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Replying to: dae (Jul 03, 2006 5:18 pm) ...take it easy here too. As it has been already pointed out, that OTHER sensor in Honda, is not a part of the Stability system, it does not provide a feedback, but merely says "OUCH" and deploys the airbags. Here is a quote from Honda's marketing literature - "New for 2006, Pilot provides standard side curtain airbags for all three rows of seats. In addition to the protection they offer outboard occupants in the event of a side impact, these side curtain airbags are fitted with a rollover sensor to help provide protection in a rollover. Most side curtain airbags in this class are designed to provide side-impact protection, but rarely do they also provide protection in the event of a rollover." In this sense - Volvo has THIRD sensor, that does the same function deploying IC. Why it is so difficult for people to except Volvo's leadership in active and passive safety? |
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Replying to: dae (Jul 03, 2006 5:16 pm) Volvo does indeed use hardened steel in the cage area of the XC90. This use is widely reported. They aren't the only ones to use boron steel in the manufacture of their cars, the Germans do as well, but the XC90 represents the most widespread use of the material. |
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Replying to: volvomax (May 26, 2006 2:55 pm) OK, you spend $32K on a little Volvo S40 AWD Automatic, and I'll spend $28K on a 4500lb Honda Ridgeline. Let's tango... Here's the last thing you will ever see... 
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Replying to: orbit9090 (Jul 13, 2006 5:07 am) Feel free to take the mantle and turn his Vord (or do you say Folvo) to scrap metal  .
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