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#105 of 124 Re: Volvo vs Honda Safety [drive62] by lev_berkovich

Jul 20, 2006 (9:49 am)

Replying to: drive62 (Jul 20, 2006 8:12 am)
"Do you think you are the only person to ever survive an accident? And apparently you think it was only because you were driving a Volvo. "
 
Actually, I have never been in any accident that was severe enough to require survival.
 
And I do not particularly care about a "degree of safety" or "safety per $$", or anything like that. The only potentially life threatening accident any of the people in my immediate circle was with Nissan Altima, and it did quite well.
So, I agree, most of cars on a road are reasonably safe, and I think, I have said it many times already.
 
However!!!
 
Volvo is a SYMBOL of safety (at least to me), and that is what I take in consideration along with other QUALITIES (meaning UNIQUNESS - unique features).
 
In this respect Honda, no matter how good it is, has still long way to go to become a SYMBOL of safety.
 
Honda, on other side, is a SYMBOL of reliability, and that what makes it a car of choice for many.
 
I, in particular, and that is just me (I do not expect it from anybody else), do not care much about reliability, to be convinced that most of the cars today ARE reasonably reliable. And therefore, Honda does not have ANY IMPORTANT UNIQUE QUALITIES to ME, while Volvo does.
 
That is it. So, I am sorry to say, you, drive62 did get me completely wrong.

#106 of 124 Re: Volvo vs Honda Safety [lev_berkovich] by drive62

Jul 20, 2006 (9:59 am)

Replying to: lev_berkovich (Jul 20, 2006 9:49 am)
I got you wrong!?! Well what exactly does this mean?
 
You all will understand why I drive Volvo and Volvo only, once you would be with me there.
 
Then you say:
 
I, in particular, and that is just me (I do not expect it from anybody else), do not care much about reliability, to be convinced that most of the cars today ARE reasonably reliable. And therefore, Honda does not have ANY IMPORTANT UNIQUE QUALITIES to ME, while Volvo does.
 
And as I stated before, cars on the US roads are safe. The government mandates it. So for me I can choose the vehicle that gives me the combination of attributes I desire. And you better believe reliability is one of them. You can have the safest car in the world, but if it is sitting in your driveway because it is unreliable...well...I guess it's pretty safe when it doesn't run.
 

#107 of 124 Re: Volvo vs Honda Safety [drive62] by lev_berkovich

Jul 20, 2006 (11:10 am)

Replying to: drive62 (Jul 20, 2006 9:59 am)
Look, drive62, why can't you just accept the fact that there are some people for whom a SYMBOL of safety is more important than a SYMBOL of reliability?
 
Most cars are safe and reliable. Let's drop this argument. I am in a total agreement with you.
 
Where exactly did you get me wrong?
 
In assumption that I discuss the degree of safety, for starters.
 
My comment about that wrack of a Volvo was about symbolic, emotional impact it has made upon me.
 
Would it be more clear, if I would rather say - You will have the same feelings as I had... or You will understand my feelings about driving Volvo...?
 
Not everything in this world has to be driven by the monetary calculations..."safety per $$" - what's a pity.
 
You also have made a comment of me being driven by the fear of accident - you can not be further from the truth than that.
 
I just see life in the broad brush strokes, and make a lot of my everyday's decisions based on SYMBOLIC values.
 
Sorry for repeating myself, but Volvo has more of those values for ME.
 
And lastly, PLEASE, do not overplay that RELIABILITY tune with me. I do not buy it.
When have you seen a modern car just sitting in the driveway because of being unreliable lately?
Definetily not a Volvo.

#108 of 124 Re: Volvo vs Honda Safety [lev_berkovich] by drive62

Jul 20, 2006 (11:46 am)

Replying to: lev_berkovich (Jul 20, 2006 11:10 am)
Well I thought people who put such importance on safety would have more justification rather than the emotional impact of seeing a wrecked Volvo.
 
All cars are reliable (you say it), and certainly all cars are safe (the government mandates it). So you drive a Volvo because....of the emotional impact apparently. To each their own.

#109 of 124 Re: Volvo vs Honda Safety [drive62] by lev_berkovich

Jul 20, 2006 (12:12 pm)

Replying to: drive62 (Jul 20, 2006 11:46 am)
Thank you, exactly right...
I believe that emotions play a huge role in the car selection, just not everyone can admit it...
 
But this is a totally different discussion..
Write me an e-mail, if you would like to discuss it, I promise to response.

#110 of 124 List of safe vehicles by blueiedgod

Jul 26, 2006 (1:58 pm)

Here is a list of safe vehicle that I compiled:
 
1. Bradley Assault vehicle
2. Semi-trailer, without a trailer
3. Greyhound bus.
4. Hummer H1
 
Take any one of thse vehicles and crash any car, including Volvo into them and only the driver of the aformentioned vehicles will survive.
 
How far as you willing to go?

#111 of 124 Re: List of safe vehicles [blueiedgod] by orbit9090

Aug 05, 2006 (7:03 am)

Replying to: blueiedgod (Jul 26, 2006 1:58 pm)
Let's stay realistic here. None of those vehicles are altogether comfortable, equipped with 360` airbags & VSC, very reliable, and priced around $28,000 brand new.
 
I still think Honda Ridgeline wins safest new vehicle for the dollar.
 

#112 of 124 Re: List of safe vehicles [blueiedgod] by blckislandguy

Aug 06, 2006 (8:00 pm)

Replying to: blueiedgod (Jul 26, 2006 1:58 pm)
This is an inane list, but let me comment:
 
1) Lots of guys in Bradleys have gotten knocked around the cabin with tragic results in rollovers and accidents, etc. We lost a couple of state deparment guys in Bosnia when one overturned.
 
2) By "semi-trailer, without a trailer" do you mean a Class 8 tractor? A rig with no air bags, two icy steps 10' feet off the ground up and into the cab, 90 DB of noise for all
12 hours the guy is driving it, no ABS, etc.? A rig that when it hits a patch of ice or jumps a Jersey barrier the driver has to be cut out with the Jaws of Life. Yep, this is one safe vehicle.
 
3) Greyhound bus. Fatalities every day.
 
4) Hummer --see Item #1 above
 
Now, can we go back to a logical discussion?

#113 of 124 Re: Safety [volvomax] by biliouschee

Aug 12, 2006 (8:33 pm)

Replying to: volvomax (Jun 22, 2006 4:37 pm)
actually, volvo does.
look at their test site pics (near the bottom)
 
http://www.autoreview.ru/new_site/year2002/n10/volvo_xc90/1.htm

#114 of 124 Re: Honda Safer per $ [orbit9090] by biliouschee

Aug 12, 2006 (8:41 pm)

Replying to: orbit9090 (Jul 19, 2006 9:47 am)
if you want the most safety for your dollar, than just buy an old volvo 240. for about $2,000 you can rest assure knowing that your driving the only car in the world that didnt have one fatality in 5 straight years.

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