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Replying to: volvomax (Jul 13, 2006 4:37 pm) However, if she had bought a Ridgeline with her $28K, instead of an S40, she wouldn't have needed the jaws of life to free her from a mangled little S40. She probably would have just stepped out and said, "Oh crap, now I'm gunna be late." In dollar-for-dollar safety, Honda beats Volvo. Volkswagen is becomming a close second...if you don't take into account VW's legendary breakdowns and system failures. If money (and resale value) was no issue at all, then an XC90 would be my safety vehicle of choice. But until I figure out a way to steal a thousands people's pensions like the Enron guys did, money IS an issue, and I have to buy the most safety per dollar in a new vehicle: Honda. HTTP://Honda Safety 
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Replying to: volvomax (Jul 14, 2006 3:51 pm) Don't get me wrong, safety is important but Honda vehicles and just about every other auto on the road in the US are safe. Are some safer than others? I suppose but if the governments crash testing shows a Honda to be very good, that seems fine for me. And for lev specifically: You all will understand why I drive Volvo and Volvo only, once you would be with me there. Do you think you are the only person to ever survive an accident? And apparently you think it was only because you were driving a Volvo.
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Replying to: drive62 (Jul 20, 2006 7:12 am) Actually, I have never been in any accident that was severe enough to require survival. And I do not particularly care about a "degree of safety" or "safety per $$", or anything like that. The only potentially life threatening accident any of the people in my immediate circle was with Nissan Altima, and it did quite well. So, I agree, most of cars on a road are reasonably safe, and I think, I have said it many times already. However!!! Volvo is a SYMBOL of safety (at least to me), and that is what I take in consideration along with other QUALITIES (meaning UNIQUNESS - unique features). In this respect Honda, no matter how good it is, has still long way to go to become a SYMBOL of safety. Honda, on other side, is a SYMBOL of reliability, and that what makes it a car of choice for many. I, in particular, and that is just me (I do not expect it from anybody else), do not care much about reliability, to be convinced that most of the cars today ARE reasonably reliable. And therefore, Honda does not have ANY IMPORTANT UNIQUE QUALITIES to ME, while Volvo does. That is it. So, I am sorry to say, you, drive62 did get me completely wrong.
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Replying to: lev_berkovich (Jul 20, 2006 8:49 am) You all will understand why I drive Volvo and Volvo only, once you would be with me there. Then you say: I, in particular, and that is just me (I do not expect it from anybody else), do not care much about reliability, to be convinced that most of the cars today ARE reasonably reliable. And therefore, Honda does not have ANY IMPORTANT UNIQUE QUALITIES to ME, while Volvo does. And as I stated before, cars on the US roads are safe. The government mandates it. So for me I can choose the vehicle that gives me the combination of attributes I desire. And you better believe reliability is one of them. You can have the safest car in the world, but if it is sitting in your driveway because it is unreliable...well...I guess it's pretty safe when it doesn't run. |
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Replying to: drive62 (Jul 20, 2006 8:59 am) Most cars are safe and reliable. Let's drop this argument. I am in a total agreement with you. Where exactly did you get me wrong? In assumption that I discuss the degree of safety, for starters. My comment about that wrack of a Volvo was about symbolic, emotional impact it has made upon me. Would it be more clear, if I would rather say - You will have the same feelings as I had... or You will understand my feelings about driving Volvo...? Not everything in this world has to be driven by the monetary calculations..."safety per $$" - what's a pity. You also have made a comment of me being driven by the fear of accident - you can not be further from the truth than that. I just see life in the broad brush strokes, and make a lot of my everyday's decisions based on SYMBOLIC values. Sorry for repeating myself, but Volvo has more of those values for ME. And lastly, PLEASE, do not overplay that RELIABILITY tune with me. I do not buy it. When have you seen a modern car just sitting in the driveway because of being unreliable lately? Definetily not a Volvo.
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Replying to: lev_berkovich (Jul 20, 2006 10:10 am) All cars are reliable (you say it), and certainly all cars are safe (the government mandates it). So you drive a Volvo because....of the emotional impact apparently. To each their own.
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Replying to: drive62 (Jul 20, 2006 10:46 am) I believe that emotions play a huge role in the car selection, just not everyone can admit it... But this is a totally different discussion.. Write me an e-mail, if you would like to discuss it, I promise to response. |
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Here is a list of safe vehicle that I compiled: 1. Bradley Assault vehicle 2. Semi-trailer, without a trailer 3. Greyhound bus. 4. Hummer H1 Take any one of thse vehicles and crash any car, including Volvo into them and only the driver of the aformentioned vehicles will survive. How far as you willing to go?
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Jul 26, 2006 12:58 pm) I still think Honda Ridgeline wins safest new vehicle for the dollar. |
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Jul 26, 2006 12:58 pm) 1) Lots of guys in Bradleys have gotten knocked around the cabin with tragic results in rollovers and accidents, etc. We lost a couple of state deparment guys in Bosnia when one overturned. 2) By "semi-trailer, without a trailer" do you mean a Class 8 tractor? A rig with no air bags, two icy steps 10' feet off the ground up and into the cab, 90 DB of noise for all 12 hours the guy is driving it, no ABS, etc.? A rig that when it hits a patch of ice or jumps a Jersey barrier the driver has to be cut out with the Jaws of Life. Yep, this is one safe vehicle. 3) Greyhound bus. Fatalities every day. 4) Hummer --see Item #1 above Now, can we go back to a logical discussion? |
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