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#1 of 489 Passat Oil Issues
Mar 13, 2006 (11:52 am)
Discuss your Passat oil thoughts and questions here.
#2 of 489 2006 Passat Oil Change @ Jeffy Lube
Mar 10, 2006 (12:10 pm)
I was told that Jeffy Lube has the specified oil for the 2006 passat (made be Pennzoil) and can perform the oil change for $60
any body had this experiance
#3 of 489 Re: 2006 Passat Oil Change @ Jeffy Lube [zperson1]
Mar 10, 2006 (1:07 pm)
That sounds a little inexpensive but only $10-$20 or so. The thing that I'd be concerned about is the Pennzoil itself. They make an oil (Pennzoil Platinum) that "Exceeds" North American warranty requirements for U.S., European and Japanese cars and light trucks with gasoline and gasoline turbo-charged engines where API SM, SL, SJ or SH are specified
The concern that I have is that Pennzoil does not specifically call out the VW oil spec as one of the specs that they meet (they do however call out eighteen other specifications). Said another way, if that oil (or any other for that matter) doesn't specifically call out the VW 502.00/505.00/503.01 standards as having been met, then there is no way I would put it in any VW or Audi.
#4 of 489 Re: 2006 Passat Oil Change @ Jeffy Lube [shipo]
Mar 10, 2006 (1:27 pm)
I got this info from Pennzoil web site which lists VW specification as compatible with this oil what do you think
is Pennzoil a reliable product
PLATINUM SYNTHETIC EUROPEAN FORMULATION MOTOR OIL
PENNZOIL® PLATINUM SYNTHETIC EUROPEAN FORMULATION MOTOR OIL is a premium synthetic engine oil that is uniquely formulated to meet the needs of European automobiles.
PENNZOIL® PLATINUM SYNTHETIC EUROPEAN FORMULATION MOTOR OIL is a low volatility oil that provides excellent high-temperature protection and low-temperature protection. It resists high temperature oxidation better than conventional oils.
PENNZOIL® PLATINUM SYNTHETIC EUROPEAN FORMULATION MOTOR OIL can be used in both passenger car and light duty diesel applications. It is specifically recommended for BMW and Porsche vehicles and where Mercedes-Benz 229.3, MB 229.1, VW 502.00, or VW 505.00 performance is required. PENNZOIL®PLATINUM SYNTHETIC EUROPEAN FORMULATION MOTOR OIL surpasses the performance requirements of API SL/CF, and ACEA A3/B4-02 and B3-98. PENNZOIL® PLATINUM SYNTHETIC EUROPEAN FORMULATION MOTOR OIL can be also be used for domestic vehicles where an API SJ, SH or API SG category is recommended. PENNZOIL® PLATINUM SYNTHETIC EUROPEAN FORMULATION MOTOR OIL is only available in a SAE 5W-40 viscosity grade.
• Protects against harmful engine deposits and wear caused by high and low-temperature severe service
• Outperforms conventional motor oils in providing protection for hot running engines.
• Protects against rust and corrosion caused by severe, low-temperature stop and go driving
• Has MB 229.3 and MB 229.1 performance approval
• Has VW 502.00, and VW 505.00 performance approval
• Has BMW LL-98 approval
• Has Porsche approval
• Exceeds the requirements of ACEA A3/B4-02 and B3-98
• Exceeds the requirements of API SL/CF
January, 2005 Stock # 5066214
#5 of 489 Re: 2006 Passat Oil Change @ Jeffy Lube [zperson1]
Mar 10, 2006 (1:40 pm)
Interesting, the Tech Data Sheet that I just got of the Pennzoil web site is dated August, 2005 and has a Stock # of 5066203, obviously older than the one you just pulled up. I wonder how you managed to fetch a newer version of the same sheet off of the same web site. Maybe you're just special.
Looking further at this situation, I see that even this newer information is still lacking the VW 503.01 spec, which IIRC is the one for the 2006 turbocharged cars. Going back to my previous post I'll say it again, unless the oil meets the VW 502.00/505.00 AND 503.01 specification, I wouldn't put it in my car.
#8 of 489 Re: 2006 Passat Oil Change @ Jeffy Lube [zperson1]
Mar 10, 2006 (8:48 pm)
Hmmm, interesting, my take on the various specs were that the 502.00 was an older gasoline engine spec and the 503.01 was the latest gasoline engine spec for the more powerful engines. That having been said, my knowledge is a little sketchy and so I did a little research to bolster what I think I know, and found some good stuff.
The following information is courtesy of someone who calls himself oilman:
This is an old oil specification and is applicable to engines built before model year 2000 (up to August 1999)
Viscosity ratings: SAE 5w-40, 10w-40 or 20w-40
This oil can be used in all gasoline and some diesel engines, apart from those referred to under other specifications.
This is another old oil specification with exactly the same application as
Viscosity ratings: SAE 10w-40, 15w-40 or 20w-40
This oil can only be used in gasoline engines and is recommended for those which are subject to arduous conditions. It must not be used for any engines with variable service intervals or any which are referred to under other specifications.
Viscosity ratings: SAE 0w-40, 5w-40 or 10w-40
This is a relatively new oil specification for gasoline engines with variable service intervals. It includes the AUDI S4, but not the RS4, or the TT and S3 with outputs of more than 180bhp.
Viscosity rating: SAE 0w-30
A new oil specification specifically for the RS4, and the TT and S3 with outputs of more than 180bhp, Passat W8 and Phaeton W12.
Viscosity rating: 0w-30 or 0w-40
For all diesel engines prior to model year 2000 (August 1999)
Viscosity rating: 0w-40, 5w-40 or 10w-40
For all diesel engines with unit injectors (Pumpe-Duse or PD) without variable service intervals.
Viscosity rating: SAE 5w-40
For all diesel engines except those with unit injectors, with variable service intervals.
Viscosity rating: SAE 0w-30
For all diesel engines, including those with unit injectors, with variable service intervals.
Viscosity rating: SAE 0w-30
Reading between the lines, the 503.01 oil spec was designed for the highest output engines from the VW/Audi stable, and one of the references was specifically to the previous generation 1.8T producing more than 180 hp. Given that both of the mills available in the Passat are substantially more powerful than that, it would seem logical to me that oil that meets the 503.01 standard would be decidedly more desirable to use instead of the older 502.00 standard. Said/read another way, the 502.00 standard is the minimum spec that can be used to keep the warranty intact but that an oil that meets both the 502.00 and the 503.01 spec is the better bet.
#9 of 489 Re: 2006 Passat Oil Change @ Jeffy Lube [shipo]
Mar 11, 2006 (4:59 am)
What is a "variable service interval"? I have the PD diesel engine ('05 passat TDi), but that term is new to me.
I sent an email to my service dept (Grappone VW in Concord, NH). I asked them about the oil they use (wanted to make sure it meets or exceeds the VW spec), and expressed some concern that they always put a sticker in the windshield that calls for me to return in 3K for another change (although the interval is 10K - makes me wonder if they really know what oil they just installed). Also, they put an MOA Oil Additive in the last change, although a read of the manual would suggest that this could void the warranty. Given the strict adherence to the change intervals posted in the manual during the sludge issue, I am surprised they would decide to add something without consulting with the manual or car owner first! I'll take that up with them soon.
To date, no reply to my inquiry. Guess I'll have to call them.
#10 of 489 Re: 2006 Passat Oil Change @ Jeffy Lube [mrjette]
Mar 11, 2006 (7:46 am)
"What is a "variable service interval"? I have the PD diesel engine ('05 passat TDi), but that term is new to me."
I've driven two BMWs that had some form of an "Oil Service Reminder" that would calculate when the next oil change was due. Said calculation is basically a determination of how much fuel has been used since the last oil change, however, many folks think that there is also a certain amount of black magic involved in the process as well. Regardless, the system on my cars calculated oil changes in as little as 13,000 miles (lots of driving in NYC traffic) and as much as 18,500 miles (mostly driving back and forth between New Hampshire and NYC).
Does VW and/or Audi use such a system? I haven't heard one way or another. Anybody?