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all these cars by nippononly
Apr 03, 2006 (9:19 am)
have continuously variable valve timing, I believe. I know the Yaris and Fit do. Equipped that way, none of them will be super high revvers, and will have a fairly broad torque plateau that begins down low. One of the recent reviews of the Fit noted the Fit's "low" 6500-rpm redline.
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Fit's Engine by robertsmx
Apr 03, 2006 (9:52 am)
In case of Fit, peak power arrives relatively early (5800 rpm)... some trucks these days don't see their peak power until about 6000 rpm.
 
Fit's engine is said to be derived from a family of i-DSI (dual sequential ignition, with two spark plugs per cylinder) unit that Fit gets in Japanese and European versions as the base engine. And those engines are designed to perform at lower rpm. The L15 in the North American Fit, however, is a VTECized version, it still isn't a high revving design, and in fact, not one of the latest engines from Honda either.
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Re: Whatever the case, [boaz47] by drewmeister
Apr 11, 2006 (8:37 am)

Replying to: boaz47 (Apr 01, 2006 9:20 am)

Yeah, it's hard to argue that C&D's test observed the Fit at the best performance AND the second best observed fuel economy (though at 35 to first places' 36, it's within margin of error).
 
In looking at them online, I like the Versa's styling and interior better. Also, it received better marks for ride.
 
My wife said the same about all the Honda's we tried at the auto show. Anything larger seemed to be one big expanse of plastic (CR-V, Pilot, etc.). The Civic and Accord don't quite seem that way. Kind of a deal breaker for her.
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drewmeister by boaz47
Apr 15, 2006 (7:05 am)
I have owned a lot of cars and I have had one made by just about every country and manufacturer. I tend to lump them altogether at times which may or may not be fair to the car or manufacturer. But in small cars Honda has always impressed me. Small engines are their Forte from cars to motorcycles to power equipment. when looking at a new product to our shores it is hard to go against the experience Honda brings to the table.
 
That is not to say I haven't bought other small cars. Sometimes the execution of a particular car gets to me and the car wins a place in my heart. But in this case with the cars mentioned I would put Honda on top of my list until enough time has passed to convince me the others might be as good or better at what they are designed to do in this class as a Honda. Cars have to be pretty ugly to keep me from at least trying them out so any of these three are worth looking at. I'm just not at the point in life where cars this small meet my life style.
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personal opinion by chrisducati
Apr 17, 2006 (6:29 am)
I'm just glad there are more to chose from now. I'm a small car lover. If I had to pick a car for styling alone it would be the Yaris hatchback. Unfortunately , Toyota has left out the tach in the U.S market. I drive stick only and while I know the rev limiter will keep me from blowing the engine I still use a tach to get the best performance and gas mileage. That one thing moves me to the Fit, even though I like the styling less. I was disappointed with the Versa sedan styling. As the car is basically a Renault Megane. I was hoping we would get a car based on the Megane II
What we end up with was a car that looks more like the older Megan

 

The Hatchback is closer to the Megane II but still you can tell it is based on the very up right Versa sedan.
If I thought there would be a sports version of the Versa hatchback or even dealer add on items I would give it a hard look. 120 hp is enough to make me look twice.
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Skimping on the tach by b3nut
Apr 17, 2006 (6:39 am)
is a pet peeve...DCX does it with the base Caliber and Ford does it with the S and SE Focus trim levels (unless you get the SE Sport Group option). Even the strippo Kia Rio and Hyundai Accent come with a tach, for crying out loud...I like having a tach even with an automatic like my Rio5 has, I like knowing what my powerplant is up to. The automakers are just being cheap here.
 
And what's with this new omit-the-coolant-temp-guage fad? The Scion xA and xB, Toyota Yaris, and Honda Fit suffer from this malady. The Chevy Cobalt almost does, but you can bring up the coolant temp in the display if you page through it enough. Again, it's nice to know what the powerplant is up to. I miss oil pressure guages too...I prefer proper guages to idiot lights...
 
Todd in Beerbratistan
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There's no coolant temp by iluvmysephia1
Apr 17, 2006 (11:34 am)
guages in the 2007 Toyota Yaris hatch or sedan? Say it isn't so! My two Kia's have had those, yes they have.
 
Not enough to dampen enthusiasm, but...I'll bet the 2006 Kia Rio LX sedan and 2006 Kia Rio5 do offer a coolant temp guage and for no extra charge, either! I guess it's time to compare the Rio value quotient over the Yaris, eh? Now's the time to do that, not after you purchase a Toyota and wish you had certain feautures.
 
That Rio5 is very, very nice.
#74 of 225
Re: There's no coolant temp [iluvmysephia1] by b3nut
Apr 18, 2006 (11:01 am)

Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 17, 2006 11:34 am)

Nope, at least not an analog guage. Whether you can bring it up on the LCD or not, I don't know. But the Scions lack coolant temp display of any kind save for an idiot light that comes on if you're overheating. Bah.
 
Even the most base, strippo '06 Kia Rio and Hyundai Accent have a coolant temp guage *and* a tach.
 
Yes, the Rio5 is a darn nice car. I saw a Sapphire Blue one like mine the other day, and it had a full tint job. Dang, it looked sharp!
 
Todd in Beerbratistan
#75 of 225
Versa MPG revision, Loses 5MPG! by harrychezt
Apr 19, 2006 (4:39 pm)
http://theautochannel.com/news/2006/04/10/003552.html
 
Says now 33 combined, down from 38MPG(I had read that the 38MPG was Hwy, on other sites,magazines, etc?).
 
#76 of 225
it's a by nippononly
Apr 19, 2006 (7:58 pm)
2700-pound car with a 120 hp engine - 38 mpg combined would have been pretty surprising.

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