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#52 of 225 Yaris by nippononly Mar 27, 2006 (1:03 pm)
keeps coming up in the reviews as the car that does everything decently, but nothing really well. The uninspiring but reliable choice.   It is not hard for me to believe that the Fit will be the driver's car of the bunch, and well-equipped but pricey for the segment.   I like that the Versa got a 6-speed manual, but can't believe how high it still revs on the highway - why didn't they give it a nice tall gear for the highway, what with six to choose from? Replies to this message: robertsmx (Mar 27, 2006 1:07 pm)
#53 of 225 Re: Yaris [nippononly] by robertsmx Mar 27, 2006 (1:07 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Mar 27, 2006 1:03 pm) It is not hard for me to believe that the Fit will be the driver's car of the bunch, and well-equipped but pricey for the segment.   Pricey, only if the competing models are stripped. Check out the Popular Mechanics comparo, Rio5 carries a price tag of $14,500, that is more than Fit's $13,850.
#54 of 225 yeah by nippononly Mar 27, 2006 (1:13 pm)
The Yaris actually has the potential to be the price leader in this segment, and when was the last time that was true of a Toyota?   Of course, the way it does that is by deleting all the convenience features people love that come standard in the Hyun/Kias and the Honda, as well as all the safety equipment (ABS, airbags).   When all are comparably equipped to the base Fit, I would imagine the Aveo retains its title of value leader, even the '07. Replies to this message: robertsmx (Mar 27, 2006 1:20 pm)
#55 of 225 Re: yeah [nippononly] by robertsmx Mar 27, 2006 (1:20 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Mar 27, 2006 1:13 pm) Toyota isn't going to beat Aveo... so it would be status quo since Echo. The real question is, how many of those Yaris's sold/available would be down to barebones trims?   Toyota usually offers a very low base price but then options (and sometimes necessary) packages take over.
#56 of 225 robert by nippononly Mar 27, 2006 (4:28 pm)
in what I would take as a VERY encouraging sign, most of the early delivery Yarii so far are unoptioned cars. I have seen both sedans now, the base and the S, and most have had no options at all except floor mats, while one had the power package and was just shy of $15K. The car I test drove was an 'S' with no options at all except the mats, sticker of $13,9.   Meanwhile, I have seen on-line inventory of the hatch with only the convenience package, with a sticker of $12,3-13,1. I haven't yet eyeballed any, as the local dealers haven't taken delivery on any of those yet.   I have been very surprised, as it is usually Toyota's habit to load to the gills the first few cars of a new model to arrive, adduing every conceivable option and package. But not this time. And not with the '07 Camry redesign either, BTW. It has been a very pleasant surprise.   If Toyota builds the bulk of the Yarii with a sticker under $14K, I think it will sell very well, as it will basically beat all the rest of the gang except the Aveo on price.
#57 of 225 nippononly... by iluvmysephia1 Mar 27, 2006 (5:12 pm)
did you say you test drove the new Toyota Yaris 4-door sedan? I may give the sedan a test drive. I optioned one how I would like on the dealer's website that also sells Scion's (Teton Toyota of Idaho Falls)and it came to only $14,415. The Kia Rio5 comes to $14,110 and the Scion xA with several bells and whistles that I would really enjoy comes to only $14,195. To this guy those are all very good and very competitive prices.   If I still like the 2007 Toyota Yaris 4-door sedan after test driving it it is so nicely priced that I may add it to my futures list. The latest entry to it. I have decided that it's styling is kind of interesting and it would take a horrid test drive of it to delete it off of my futures list.   More on this later, dudes.
#58 of 225 iluv by nippononly Mar 28, 2006 (7:28 am)
I most certainly did. It is a good drive, less peppy than my Echo because it is a couple hundred pounds heavier with the same engine (and the same engine as the xA, BTW, which weighs another 100 pounds more than the Yaris), but never wanting for power. It has a substantial feel for such a small car, and no longer has pinky-light power steering like my Echo, but rather has steering with some heft and road feel to it.   Better seat cloth and headliner this time around too, and the clock is standard as are manual remote outside mirrors, some trims get a tach, and sedans get driver's seat height adjustment. Considering this car is basically the same price as the Echo, I think it is a heck of a bargain. Just look out for the stupid cupholder design and tell me what you think!
#59 of 225 nippononly... by iluvmysephia1 Mar 28, 2006 (12:02 pm)
make sure if you haven't already to go to the '2007 Toyota Yaris' thread here on Edmunds. Since I didn't have to go to work today I was up until early this AM configuring the 4-door Yaris sedan. I studied it pretty good and the car offers a lot for the $14,675. I'll chat with you over on the specific car's thread because it's a rather thorough look at features and options, etc. I did find the right "mix" for me.   One point I found interesting, though. Toyota adds a "luxury trim alloy look" on the dashboard. I will probably like this since I am one that likes this current trend of adding all the "faux aluminum" trims and touches the manufacturers seem to fancy adding these days. Do you recall seeing that in your test drive? Replies to this message: nippononly (Mar 28, 2006 12:44 pm)
#60 of 225 Re: nippononly... [iluvmysephia1] by nippononly Mar 28, 2006 (12:44 pm)
Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Mar 28, 2006 12:02 pm) You know what? Now I think of it, I HAVE seen a sedan with the power package, although the car I drove was not the one. My local dealer has a fully loaded one sitting in front of the showroom, and I sat in it for a minute.   That "luxury trim alloy look" is a kind of satin-finish silver plastic that covers the whole center stack and includes a little LCD screen for the radio display which I believe will also show tracks on your MP3 player or whatever. It looks nice, nicer than the alloy-look plastic in the Matrix I had, which began to look a little ragged in my car after only a couple of years.   You only get this center stack with the power package, I believe. I drove an 'S' with crank windows, and the stereo was just a standard Toyota CD stereo, no satin-finish alloy in sight!
#61 of 225 Re: Car and Driver [mirth] by drewmeister Mar 31, 2006 (2:57 pm)
Replying to: mirth (Mar 27, 2006 9:12 am) Mirth, I read that comparo. What I was disappointed with was the finish placing of the Caliber. I was hoping it would do better, as I like it's styling and LOVE the price point. However, if I was to consider it, I'd hold out for the Jeep version. I drive a Wrangler now, which is like admitting insanity, but I'm considering a small car for commuting duty. Love the ipod idea, and the stereo options look very good (haven't seen one outside of the auto show yet). My next choice in this range would be a Versa, or a Fit. We've put 85k on a Focus, and it's lost a fuel pump so far as for big issues, but every single thing on the car rattles, including stuff in the doors, and the electrics do weird stuff (interior dome light quit, bulb's fine, don't want to bother chasing the wiring), so no more Fords. Not too bad a car though, for the 8k I paid for it secondhand.

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