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BMW 5 Series, Car Buying, Sedan
#65 of 400 Re: 5 Series - One Owner Certified - Best bets [nowakj66]
Jul 17, 2007 (5:20 am)
Check the BMWCCA classifieds and the CPO section of BMWNA. BMWCCA go back to day 1 and BMWNA go back 6 years.
Two other things; avoid lease cars, they have not been maintained any better than the schedule of "free" service, and you do not need certified cars or definitely you do not need to purchase extended warranties or maintenance plans.
I have a 2002 530i SP 5 speed with 93000 miles. My costs that would have been covered by either extended plans are $1402. My understanding of extended warranties and maintenance plans are they will cost approximately $3500.
CPO costs are as negotiable as the car, it is in the price, but you will pay between $1000 and $1500 more for a CPO. A BMW Dealer will not lose money with a CPO package, but they may break even since you will likely come back to the dealer for service, covered and non covered.
Extended plans have profit and commission included. If they cost $3500, there is probably $1750 of profit and commission. That leaves $1750 of coverage; CPOs cost $1500 more and my costs have been $1402 and I am passed the last scheduled service. That should give you a good idea of what an average BMW will cost to maintain by the schedule.
Also, keep in mind that with tires my total cost of service and maintenance is $7173. I roughly follow the service schedule recommended by Mike Miller, BMWCCA tech editor, and have also bought a replacement wheel and had a bent wheel repaired.
I hope this helps your decision process. I highly recommend a 530i.
#66 of 400 Re: 5 Series - One Owner Certified - Best bets [530ir1150r]
Jul 18, 2007 (6:52 am)
Thanks for the tips 530ir.
I can see the $1402 in service costs but how did it get to $7373 with tires?
#67 of 400 Re: 5 Series - One Owner Certified - Best bets [nowakj66]
Jul 19, 2007 (1:51 pm)
Scheduled, service beyond BMW's recommendation; $2139.42.
Recurring, mostly tires; $3019.07.
Damage, wheel repair and replacement wheel; $621.00
Unscheduled, Mostly preventive radiator replacement and brake and master cylinder issues; $1393.06.
Annual costs the last 4 years including 2007 so far has run $1500 to $1800.
The $1402 is what an extended warranty, maintenance plan or CPO would have covered and is in the $7173.
#68 of 400 Re: 5 Series - One Owner Certified - Best bets [530ir1150r]
Jul 19, 2007 (2:28 pm)
Can you tell me at what mileage you replaced the radiator?
#69 of 400 Re: 5 Series - One Owner Certified - Best bets [cmr530i]
Jul 20, 2007 (1:20 pm)
75,365; it coincided with flushing out the coolant system in the fall after 4 years. I do not know if it was absolutely necessary, but I wanted to do it before I had to do it.
#70 of 400 Re: 5 Series - One Owner Certified - Best bets [530ir1150r]
Jul 20, 2007 (7:22 pm)
I do not know if it was absolutely necessary, but I wanted to do it before I had to do it.
The radiator in my wife's 1997 528i was replaced at 8 years and 125K miles, it cracked when it was removed in order to replace the water pump. Who knows how long it would have lasted if it had been left alone? FWIW, the radiator in my Club Sport is still going strong at 12 years and 110K miles.
#71 of 400 Re: 5 Series - One Owner Certified - Best bets [roadburner]
Jul 23, 2007 (6:52 am)
I'd read somewhere where early 2000's (I cannot remember if it was just 5 series or just 6 cylinders) had problems with the plastic piece cracking where the radiator hoses attach at around 100k miles. I put it on my list of things to do several years ago. Older BMWs should not be a problem, I do not know about newer.
#72 of 400 Considering buying a E34 (1988-96) 525i
Jul 30, 2007 (1:36 pm)
I am considering buying a e34 525i with a manual tranny.
I am looking for advice on the following points:
1) What are the common wear and failure items on this model?
2) How long will the engine last (miles) on average? How about a clutch job?
3) Are certain years better than others from a reliability standpoint (new electricals, etc)?
4) What kind of mileage are you getting on this model?
5) Overall level of satisfaction from owning this model (i.e. good value or not good value at say $4-5K compared to a $15-16K e39)
Thanks in advance!
#73 of 400 Getting ready to buy first BMW - '97 528i
Jul 30, 2007 (8:01 pm)
Wanted to get some opinions. I'm thinking about purchasing my first BMW to replace my '92 Mercedes 300E. I have found a '97 White on Tan 528i with 101K miles.
This car has been in the same family since first purchased. Car went from Mom to daughter, then to daughter's brother.
Car has been very well maintained, and is in overall excellent condition. I have not yet got it to my wrench for a Pre-Purchase Inspection. Will be doing so in the next couple days.
Seller was originally asking $12,500 for the car but has already shared with me that he will take nothing less than $10,500.
Any suggestions on stuff I should consider, or things to look at before buying?
I've driven a bunch of 528s recently, mostly 97s and 98s (to stick with the cast iron engine blocks). This one seemed to drive a little better than the others, but it could just be that I liked it best. Even the cars that weren't in the greatest of shape drove very well, so it's nice to see that the cars are consistent.
I have found cars with higher mileage with asking prices in the $8K - $9K dollar range. From what I've seen, this car definitely stood out as the best in the bunch.
I look forward to being able to share some good news about my future car soon. Thanks in advance, and best regards.
#74 of 400 Re: Getting ready to buy first BMW - '97 528i [simmomi]
Jul 30, 2007 (9:48 pm)
My only comment is to ask why you are overtly trying to avoid the new block that debued in 1999? The aluminum block with iron or steel (I don't remember which) cylinder sleeves has proven to be very robust, easily a match for the cast iron block.