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#74 of 131 Throttle Body TSB Tech Service Bulletin old Re: Lots of problems [ekraft90] by coldcranker Sep 16, 2008 (6:39 am)
Replying to: ekraft90 (Jul 14, 2008 4:47 pm) Ford has known its had major throttle body issues on the Freestyle/500/Montego, and maybe others, for a long time now. They issued a TSB (tech service bulletin) early in the Freestyle manufacturing run. A TSB means that Ford has seen too many failures of this part and is alerting technicians to the problem:   Copy of TSB:    The part "5F9Z-9E926-AA Throttle Body" is over $200.   There was a Technical Service Bulletin TSB that your dealership should be made aware of (tell the dealership to look up TSB 05-25-13 or just print out the following):   TSB 05-25-13 MIL ON WITH VARIOUS DTCS   Publication Date: December 13, 2005   FORD: 2005 Five Hundred, Freestyle MERCURY: 2005 Montego   ISSUE: Some 2005 Five Hundred, Freestyle, or Montego vehicles built on or before 3/9/2005 may exhibit the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) on, with any or all of the following diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs): P0068, P0121, P0221, P0222, P0223, P1120, P1121, P1124, P1125, P2100, P2101, P2106, P2107, P2111, P2112, P2135.   ACTION: Perform normal diagnostics. If normal diagnostics lead to an electronic throttle body (ETB) replacement, refer to the following Service Procedure.   SERVICE PROCEDURE   Replace the throttle body referring to Workshop Manual Section 303-04, and reprogram the powertrain control module (PCM) to the latest calibration using WDS release B40.4 and higher or B41.1 and higher. This new calibration is not included in the B41 CD. Calibration files may also be obtained at www.motorcraft.com.   PART NUMBER PART NAME 5F9Z-9E926-AA Throttle Body   WARRANTY STATUS: Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage   DEALER CODING BASIC PART NO. CONDITION CODE 9E926 42   ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------   NOTE: The information in Technical Service Bulletins is intended for use by trained, professional technicians with the knowledge, tools, and equipment to do the job properly and safely. It informs these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or provides information that could assist in proper vehicle service. The procedures should not be performed by "do-it-yourselfers". Do not assume that a condition described affects your car or truck. Contact a Ford, Lincoln, or Mercury dealership to determine whether the Bulletin applies to your vehicle. Warranty Policy and Extended Service Plan documentation determine Warranty and/or Extended Service Plan coverage unless stated otherwise in the TSB article. The information in this Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) was current at the time of printing. Ford Motor Company reserves the right to supercede this information with updates. The most recent information is available through Ford Motor Company's on-line technical resources.
#75 of 131 Re: 2006 Freestyle lots of problems [coldcranker] by leo44 Sep 16, 2008 (7:07 am)
Replying to: coldcranker (Sep 16, 2008 6:02 am) no, they cleaned the mass air flow sensor, and then when light came on they said it was the gas cap. third time they advised they could not duplicate the problem and could not fix what they did not know. when it does it again or before hand we will be using another dealership for repairs. i understand where they are comming from but surely they know about issues in these models any advice is welcome
#76 of 131 Lemon Laws invoked?...Re: 2006 Freestyle lots of problems [jrmust] by coldcranker Sep 16, 2008 (8:37 am)
Replying to: jrmust (Sep 10, 2008 11:53 am) At a certain point, I'd think you could invoke the Lemon Laws in your state (assuming U.S.A; don't know about other places). They vary by state. With the Lemon Laws, Ford buys your vehicle at the retail used car price. After replacing a bunch of sensors and parts over much time, I would think you could do that. If you have any luck with Lemon Laws, then let me know. Google it and put in your state, or call the Better Business Bureau and they can direct you. Replies to this message: jrmust (Sep 18, 2008 7:28 am)
#77 of 131 fuel tank issues by godsmyt Sep 16, 2008 (8:44 am)
The dealership has advised me that they are replacing a wiring harness to take care of the problem between dispersing fuel between the two tanks. Does this make any sense when looking at the diagram? Thanks, Replies to this message: coldcranker (Sep 16, 2008 7:37 pm)
#78 of 131 Re: fuel tank issues [godsmyt] by coldcranker Sep 16, 2008 (7:37 pm)
Replying to: godsmyt (Sep 16, 2008 8:44 am) There is a part # 14A007 electrical connnector attached to the transfer fuel pump, and a 14A464 electrical connector on the main fuel pump. They are probably replacing one or both of those. It is possible they are right about doing this. Interestingly, to pull those connectors and wiring, they have to remove a fuel tank shield cover under the 2nd row seats and actually pull up the fuel pumps from inside the vehicle. (On most cars I think you put the vehicle on a lift and drop the gas tank down, but not ours.) Sounds like a 1-hour labor charge (not sure).
#79 of 131 fuel pump problems by godsmyt Sep 17, 2008 (5:40 pm)
Well, after replacing the wiring harness I had my car back for less than 24 hours....gas gauge reached 1/4 tank and dropped to empty. Wonder what they will try now? Replies to this message: coldcranker (Sep 17, 2008 7:35 pm)
#80 of 131 Re: fuel pump problems [godsmyt] by coldcranker Sep 17, 2008 (7:35 pm)
Replying to: godsmyt (Sep 17, 2008 5:40 pm) Maybe they will try to replace the fuel transfer pump itself, as it could have some internal flaw which causes it to not respond to control inputs. Hope its under warranty or extended warranty. I got a third-party extended warranty that I hope I don't have to test to see if they pay up and cooperate.
#81 of 131 Re: 2006 Freestyle lots of problems [leo44] by jrmust Sep 18, 2008 (7:23 am)
Replying to: leo44 (Sep 15, 2008 10:31 am) My mass air flow sensor was completely changed. Did not fix the problem. Back at dealer awaiting a technician from Ford.
#82 of 131 Re: 2006 Freestyle lots of problems [coldcranker] by jrmust Sep 18, 2008 (7:25 am)
Replying to: coldcranker (Sep 16, 2008 6:02 am) Hi Coldcranker   Throttle sensor part number that was changed was 5F9Z9F836BA. not sure exactly what it is but no matter. Didin't fix the problem. Replies to this message: coldcranker (Sep 18, 2008 1:57 pm) jrmust (Sep 04, 2009 4:32 pm) jrmust (Sep 09, 2009 3:58 am) wgroper (Oct 27, 2009 11:10 am)
#83 of 131 Re: Lemon Laws invoked?...Re: 2006 Freestyle lots of problems [coldcranker] by jrmust Sep 18, 2008 (7:28 am)
Replying to: coldcranker (Sep 16, 2008 8:37 am) Lemon Laws in the state of Virginia only apply to new vehicles under 18,000 miles or if a dealer refuses to work on it. I bought it used with 28,000 miles. So I'm SOL in that department. But thanks for checking.

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