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Re: Need Lease Payment calculated [hardhawk]
by andycinti
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May 27, 2007 (9:29 am)
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Replying to: hardhawk (May 02, 2007 1:22 pm)
Carman - My dad is a retired Ford employee and I am considering a lease of an MKZ. The Z plan pricing on the Ford web site is about $2,600 - $3,000 below MSRP depending on options selected. My question is this: am I always better off just telling the sales guy I am buying/leasing on z plan as soon as I walk in? Is it possible I may be able to get a better deal than z plan in a few months when they start clearing out 2007 inventory? Thanks.
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Re: Need Lease Payment calculated [hardhawk]
by Car_man HOST
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Jun 21, 2007 (2:27 am)
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Replying to: hardhawk (May 02, 2007 1:22 pm)
Hi hardhawk. The car that you described has a spread of around $2,800 between its full MSRP and its dealer invoice price. That puts the $1,800 discount that you were quoted at around $1,000 over invoice. If you are in an area that has a decent level of competition and you shop around I would not be surprised if you were able to beat this price by $500 or so. According to the latest information that I have seen, Ford Credit's current base lease rate and residual value for a 39 month lease of a 2007 Lincoln MKZ 2WD with 10,500 miles per year are 1.75% and 51%, respectively.
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Re: Need Lease Payment calculated [andycinti]
by Car_man HOST
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Jun 21, 2007 (2:29 am)
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Replying to: andycinti (May 27, 2007 9:29 am)
Hi andycinti. I personally doubt that you will be able to negotiate a deal that's much better than the Z-Plan price on your own.
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MKZ red carpet lease details?
by setamp
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Jul 14, 2007 (4:19 pm)
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Does anyone know the residual % and the interest factor used for the new MKZ 39 month lease promotion? Also, any help would be appreciated for selling price. I just hit the local dealership and they have a BUNCH of MKZ's on the lot.
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Re: MKZ red carpet lease details? [setamp]
by Car_man HOST
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Aug 01, 2007 (2:22 am)
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Replying to: setamp (Jul 14, 2007 4:19 pm)
Hi setamp. Ford Credit's current base lease rate and residual value for a 39 month lease of a 2007 Lincoln MKZ 2WD with 12,000 miles per year are 1.5% and 49%, respectively. When negotiating your lease on this car, make sure to take advantage of the $500 lease cash that is currently available on it.
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Re: Beamerman [BeamerMan]
by patrick2
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Aug 15, 2007 (12:26 am)
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Replying to: BeamerMan (Nov 16, 2006 7:34 am)
Hello, I was wondering, if anyone on this board, has some info
on the financial numbers for the 2008 Lincoln MKZ. What I am looking for is the residual and interest rate for the 2008 model. I was going to wait about 30 days and lease one with the new Sync system in it. Any help I would appreciate it.
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hoping to negotiate
by casolorz
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Oct 13, 2007 (7:56 am)
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Car_man or anyone else who wants to contribute. I am hoping to lease an mkz, 12k miles, 36mos (39 ok). The msrp is 33,005.00 and my credit scores are between 640 and 670 and my wifes are between 660 and 680. I have a tradein but I am only hoping to get enough for it to pay it off.
What do you guys think a pretax payment might be like with zero down?
Thanks.
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Which is better - buy or lease this car?
by dandydon2
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Oct 13, 2007 (1:19 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Aug 01, 2007 2:22 am)
Question:
Is cheaper for me to buy or lease this 2008 MKZ?
Assumptions:
• MSRP = $33,680
• Price if purchased (including $1,000 cash back)= $29,206
• Lease price (including $500 factory allowance)= $29,706
• Own or lease for 24 months
• Drive 12,000 miles per year
• Two year residual value = 62% of MSRP
• If Buy, pay all cash – no financing required
• If Lease, pay $5,000 down plus $350 start-up fee
• Consider lost opportunity cost for cash tied up for purchase option at 5%
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Re: hoping to negotiate [casolorz]
by Car_man HOST
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Oct 15, 2007 (2:23 am)
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Replying to: casolorz (Oct 13, 2007 7:56 am)
Hi casolorz. This car's lease payment will depend upon the selling price that you are able to negotiate on it. The selling prices of leased vehicles are negotiable. The lower your car's selling price is, the lower its monthly payment will be. For now, I will assume that you will be able to negotiate a $2,000 discount on this car. Add to this the $500 lease cash that is currently available on it and we arrive at a total capitalized cost reduction of $2,500. According to my calculations, if you were to lease a 2008 Lincoln MKZ that has an MSRP of $33,005 and a capitalized cost of $30,505 through Ford Credit right now for 36 months with 12,000 miles per year, your zero down, pre-tax monthly payment would be around $415.
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Re: Which is better - buy or lease this car? [dandydon2]
by Car_man HOST
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Oct 15, 2007 (2:45 am)
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Replying to: dandydon2 (Oct 13, 2007 1:19 pm)
Hi dandydon2. Whether is it cheaper to lease this car for two years or to purchase it and sell it after two years depends upon how realistic you believe its residual value is. Ignoring the interest expense, theoretically if this car's residual value accurately reflects what it will be worth in two years one would come out about the same if they purchase or leased it. Residual values are not perfect though. In fact, I suspect that Ford Credit is overestimating this car's residual value. If that is the case, you would be much better off leasing and letting them take the hit than absorbing the additional depreciation on your own.
Furthermore, Ford is currently providing a special 1.75% interest rate on leases of the 2008 Lincoln MKZ. This is an additional benefit of leasing because this is a much lower interest rate than you would be able to get if you were to finance this car through an independent bank. Plus, you should be able to do better than 1.75% by investing the money that you would have laid out had you paid cash for this car.
If I was positive that I was going to only keep this MKZ for only two years I personally would definitely lease it.
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