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#29 of 58 sounds like the one! by nippononly Aug 15, 2006 (9:30 pm)
the Polo is about to be redesigned, and it is the next-gen platform for that model that is the current front-runner for also going under the U.S.-market Hornet. I sure hope they go ahead, although having VW build them in Mexico might not be the best formula for build quality and reliability!
#30 of 58 Dodge Hornet a long distance traveler? by imcarcrazy Aug 27, 2006 (7:28 pm)
I love this concept car as is. The key is will the accountants allow it's manufacture. What I most like about the car aside from it's "Mini Cooper" power is its expanded room. Being close to retirement I like value. As I travel when I read "Motel 6" rooms going for $59.95-$89.95 I think that with the Hornet I could easily "car camp" every other day while on the road and still not be any less "offensive" as camping in the dirt. I know those of you with mega bucks and weak stomachs think me crude but if I can save $60-$100 bucks every other day while getting great gas mileage then I won't have to resort to eating cat food in my retirement, lol. For now my only mode of transpo is a 1999 Yamaha Royal Star Venture which is hardly the platform to lay on lengthways without falling in the dirt anyway. Therefore, bring on the Dodge Hornet Concept.
#31 of 58 it's by nippononly Aug 28, 2006 (7:20 am)
the best-looking Dodge in years, and yes, I'm including the Charger in that remark.
#32 of 58 It is a nice looking design and I think by iluvmysephia1 Dec 09, 2006 (8:22 pm)
that it would catch on here in the States.   One interesting point when reading one of the Hornet articles is regarding it's engine. It is the "Tritec" motor that BMW puts in the Mini-Cooper and it's jointly developed by Chrysler and Rover; it's made in a $500 million, highly-automated Brazilian factory jointly owned by Chrysler and BMW.   Another interesting point is the weight of the Hornet-3,100 pounds. Yet it pulls of a 0-60 mph time of only 6.7 seconds. Whoa-this little squirt is going to have some pop to it. If Dodge can build this car for production that will do 0-60 times in the 6 to 7 second range like that then I think the future of this car is very, very bright indeed.
#33 of 58 Another point to ponder about the Hornet by iluvmysephia1 Dec 09, 2006 (9:07 pm)
and other small cars is the Hornet's motor, the 1.6L Tritec, is also being installed in the new Brazilian Obvio! 828/2, the economy Obvio! currently under development.   It is now much more believable that both the Hornet and the Obvio! 828/2 will possess some pop to their getup when one realizes that the same motor is installed in the BMW Mini-Cooper. And the BMW Mini-Cooper is not bashed for it's lack of available peppiness. Maybe for a lack of backseat space or something like that, not for a sluggish engine.   The inevitable small car revival looks to be in full bloom now and there will be some good choices to choose from coming right up here. Already Kia and their Rio and Rio5 and Hyundai and their Accent and Scion and their tC and Suzuki and their hot new SX4 are providing excitement in the industry(add to these Honda with the Fit, Toyota with the Yaris and Nissan with the Versa), but the arrival of the Obvio! 828/2 and possibly Dodge with the new Hornet only warms up the scene that much more so. Replies to this message: nippononly (Dec 11, 2006 12:53 pm)
#34 of 58 Re: Another point to ponder about the Hornet [iluvmysephia1] by nippononly Dec 11, 2006 (12:53 pm)
Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Dec 09, 2006 9:07 pm) Before we get too thrilled about the "Mini connection" here: A. The next-gen Mini, available here February '07, will use a new 1.6L developed as a joint project between PSA Citroen and BMW, and built by the French. B. Drive a Mini Cooper some time. It gets maximum accolades for style and other-world handling. Engine peppiness is not one of the pluses of the Cooper, in fact sluggishness is one of the first things I noticed when driving the base model, ESPECIALLY with the A/C running. And if the Hornet is going to get to 60 in under 7 seconds with that engine and 500 extra pounds, it is going to be geared to spin like MAD and burn a ton of gas. It will probably be one of those cars that turns 3500 rpm at 65 mph and can't beat a V-6 Chevy sedan for fuel economy...
#35 of 58 nippon... by iluvmysephia1 Dec 13, 2006 (9:20 pm)
I think that those early 0-60 numbers on the Hornet are just that...early 0-60 numbers. I really doubt that the 3,100 lb. Dodge Hornet will be able to do anything close to 6.7 seconds in the 0-60 mph race.   Having said that, I would not disqualify the Dodge Hornet from possible purchase if it did have a certain sluggishness off the line. This insane push in America for quick starts off the line is hideous and is very wasteful as well. It is not a buying criteria of mine...at all. What the Dodge engineers could place in the Hornet by way of a 1.6L 4 cyl.would do me just fine, I am pretty sure of it. A test drive should show up any glaring deficiencies.   I'd be more interested in it's steering tracking and it's handling and such in my Hornet test drive. This looks like all systems go for Dodge and it looks to be an exciting new design that should easily outsell the Neon and PT Cruiser combined. Americans are waiting for a small car sold by the Big 2 and a half like this one.   Now, will Daimler keep Chrysler long enough for this little pup to be built? There was this goofy story last week about Daimler booting the Chrysler division? Did I hear that on the news last week? Replies to this message: twain (Jan 15, 2007 9:49 pm)
#36 of 58 iluv by nippononly Dec 14, 2006 (7:41 am)
Normally I would totally agree with you, but this car suffers from the same malady as most of the cars produced by the domestics: obesity. A car this small should NEVER get to 3100 pounds, and for a 3100-pound car, a 1.6L engine is on the smallish side - you are going to be working an engine that small pretty hard a lot of the time in a car that heavy.   Now as for the stoplight-racing comment, I am totally with you - I was just responding to a comment someone made (you?) about the 6.7 second 60 mph sprint. For me, 0-60 anywhere under 10 seconds is plenty for anything I am going to commute in.
#37 of 58 nippon... by iluvmysephia1 Dec 14, 2006 (10:24 am)
that is going to be one of the things I'm going to be looking at when the test drives start on the Hornet-the weight issue. It will be interesting to see if tester's find it way too sluggish. OTOH-0-60 in 6.7 seconds estimated is a pretty zippy 0-60. Seems to me that that time will not really be possible with a 3,100 lb. car. The weight would be all right with me but not if it's gas mileage suffers greatly because of the weight. If this car has gas mileage in the upper 20's it will be a lot less interesting car for me to look at. Smaller size should translate to improved gas mileage.   Haven't heard who Dodge is going to hire to help build this car yet. VW? Replies to this message: nippononly (Dec 14, 2006 11:59 am)
#38 of 58 Re: nippon... [iluvmysephia1] by nippononly Dec 14, 2006 (11:59 am)
Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Dec 14, 2006 10:24 am) I think they are going to have the Chinese build it. Latest I heard, VW is out. In fact, Hornet could be the very first car manufactured by the Chinese and sold on American shores.   That 0-60 time could be for an optional turbo-engined model or something. I bet the base engined Hornet won't be that quick.

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