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Re: 1999 S-10 4 cylinder surge and hasitiation [dentrek] by flashman3000
Jan 13, 2008 (7:41 am)
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Replying to: dentrek (Dec 27, 2007 9:56 pm)

I just bought a 99 GMC Sonoma 4.3L V-6. Experienced check light coming on/off over several weeks,hesitation during start up and while driving and fuel mileage is in the toilet (15-16mpg on average). Code came up P0300 "random multiple missfire". I changed plugs, wires, cap, rotor, fuel filter and dumped several cans of chemtool injector cleaner over 3-4 tanks. Dealer finds no problems and code light is off now, hesitation at idle is intermittent, seems to still be there slightly at normal driving speeds and fuel economy still in the toilet. Can't tell if it's ignition, tranny lag or something else. I'm pretty sure this model should be getting at least 20mpg on average. Anyone have any ideas?
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Re: bad gas [98shitnoma] by flashman3000
Jan 13, 2008 (8:38 am)
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Replying to: 98shitnoma (Sep 23, 2007 7:01 am)

I have a 99 Sonoma, same problem, replaced plugs, wires, cap, rotor, injectors cleaned, still have problem...16-17mpg at 82,000 miles. Any luck finding your problem?
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Re: 1999 S-10 4 cylinder surge and hasitiation [flashman3000] by mickeymouse2
Jan 13, 2008 (8:52 am)
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Replying to: flashman3000 (Jan 13, 2008 7:41 am)

99 GMC Sonoma 4.3L V-6
 
Obviously your PCM is detecting misfires but cannot isolate a perticular problem. On your model it is usally a dirty or bad connection at the crank sensor, or an intermittant problem with fuel pressure.
 
Here is an explanation. The PCM interprets irractic changes in the pulses coming from the crank sensor as misfires. Basically, your vehicle skips a beat due to any number of reasons and the PCM sees it as random misfires. Check the plug to the crank sensor and see if it is oily or dirty. I would also invest in a fuel pressure guage and verify there isn't any drops in fuel pressure. You have a engine that needs at least 55-60 psi fuel pressure at all times, or the fuel injectors will not spray fuel. GM has a poppet inside the injectors that prevent opening unless there is sufficient pressure, even though they are being told to open by the PCM. Good luck.
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Re: 1999 S-10 4 cylinder surge and hasitiation [flashman3000] by toneyg
Jan 13, 2008 (11:49 am)
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Replying to: flashman3000 (Jan 13, 2008 7:41 am)

What is the odometer reading. From past experience, I've found that 2 things can contribute to this kind of problems. 1 is the catyletic converter clogging up and the egr valve also. The other is you air filters and PCV valves sticking. So my advice would be to have these items checked
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missfiring by sunfiregt34
Jan 13, 2008 (4:19 pm)
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I have a 2002 gmc sonoma with a 2.2 with 90k miles on it whenever my truck starts the rpm is kinda jumping around and whenever I go foward it hestates to shift to second gear but after that the truck runs good any ideas?
 
Thanks
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Re: engine code [jimmy250] by mickeymouse2
Jan 13, 2008 (5:48 pm)
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Replying to: jimmy250 (Dec 29, 2007 12:02 am)

p0303 does indicate that the PCM sees a misfire on #3.
 
The most common problem is ignition arcing because of no dialectric greese on the sparkplug boot. Bad spark plug, fualty injector for #3, engine compression problem on #3, ect. You got to do some troubleshooting and hope its one of the easy problems. If your due for a tune up, do one and see.
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99s10 running too cool by tomf8
Jan 14, 2008 (8:39 am)
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i have 99 s10 2.2ltr. eng the engine does not come up temp. and also no heat at heater in cab. i have changed thermostate 2 times and will not come up temp, runs about 130degrees. thanks for your help.
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Re: 99s10 running too cool [tomf8] by mickeymouse2
Jan 14, 2008 (7:30 pm)
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Replying to: tomf8 (Jan 14, 2008 8:39 am)

If you have an electric fan for the radiator, I would suspect that it is coming on to early and too long, probably a bad temp sensor for the fan, or if you have AC the radiator fan switch for that.
 
If you have a manual driven fan. I would first want to know if any modifications have been made to the engine, or the AC condensor removed or something. Has an add on transmission cooler been added?
 
If your positive that the engine is running cold itself and not a problem with the guage and a heater control valve not letting hot coolant enter the heater core. Please post more info about your vehicle.
 
Electric fan or manual? If electric fan, how long until it comes on after start up?
Automatic or manual transmission?
Modifications or add ons?
How are you determining engine temp?
Factory AC, or after makrket or none?
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Re: 1999 S-10 4 cylinder surge and hasitiation [mickeymouse2] by flashman3000
Jan 14, 2008 (8:08 pm)
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Replying to: mickeymouse2 (Jan 13, 2008 8:52 am)

Thanks for the info. Can this problem still exist without a code coming up? I have an Auto Xray 1500 scanner and had the dealer scan it w/o any results as well. All tests on the Emmissions system comes back normal. They ruled out the injectors during the last visit. How common is the faulty fuel preasure issue with this mode? Could this be a vacum, or faulty compression issue? What should the mileage be on this type of truck....roughly? Lot's of experience with the v-8s not so much with the 4.3L. Thanks again for all of your help I'll get to checking these out this weekend just to be sure.
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Re: bad gas [flashman3000] by flashman3000
Jan 14, 2008 (8:21 pm)
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Replying to: flashman3000 (Jan 13, 2008 8:38 am)

Not yet...changed the plugs and found one gapped at .065. Changed them out and the P0300 "random missfire" code went off. Still have the gas issue though the idle stumble seems to be gone. Still seems to be missing at normal speeds but I can't tell as the truck rides so freaking stiff in the first place. So far i've logged 135 miles on a half tank....can't be running right but it pulls hard under a load and feels strong through the gears.
From what I can tell from other postings is that it can be either plugged cat, bad crank sensor, poor fuel preasure, fouled EGR, vacum leak, or a new truck....i just don't know how common any of these issues are in this model to know where to really start. Guess I have to pick one and start ruling them out one by one. Any ideas?

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