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#36 of 65 Re: [highender]
Apr 01, 2006 (10:52 am)
I'm sorry I misunderstood you pal. Glad you will be there by my side. We thankfully agree on most of it. I however still don't agree with your position on importing lower end chinese made goods.
#37 of 65 Re: [rockylee]
Apr 01, 2006 (11:01 am)
Yes...we are agreeing on maybe 95% of the things regarding US vs others.
Can you clarify your position on this ? ( the importing of lower priced goods ) ?
I think tax deductions may have been instituted to help the US auto makers, as well as midwest farmers and small business owners.
#38 of 65 Re: fintail [rockylee]
Apr 01, 2006 (11:06 am)
Ronald Regans "trickel down theory" has had it's effects. It makes the rich "richer"
I think you have mistaken which economic policy made the rich richer, while not increasing the wage of the worker.
In 1980, according to Andrew Tobias, the typical CEO made 42 times as much as his average worker. In 1990 it had doubled to 85 times as much as the average worker. During the next ten years up to 2000, that amount went to 531 times as much as the average worker. Tell me which economic plan works best for the rich?
If you look at the tax plans of the left party. They do not take aim at the real wealthy with their cash in foreign banks & bonds. They target the middle class to upper middle class. It is elitism that we should be fighting not free market economy.
#39 of 65 Re: [highender]
Apr 01, 2006 (11:31 am)
My position is I'm against importing goods that can be made here in the U.S.-period. I believe all imports should be tarriffed and if those company's want to sell it here, then they need to make the product here. Our corporations are essentially building up our enemy's wealth. The Big Red Machine's army is about 2 million people. The only way to stop them is using a Nuke. They got em' too. China is getting rich and powerful, while we keep loading up debt which they purchase in the form of Treasury Bills. They are essentially buying America. Well atleast we agree 95% vs. 0 %
#40 of 65 Re: fintail [gagrice]
Apr 01, 2006 (11:43 am)
I'm not a die hard democrat. I'm a registered democrat, but had a hard time voting for Kerry. *Gulp*
I hope John Edwards will get the nomination this time around. He is an american worker and buisness protectionist. Edwards is a little flip floppy on the border issue. If we don't get a new mentality in Washington, their won't just be a UAW anymore, but a huge reduction in american manufactoring. I suppose President Bush will get his way and reclassify the manufactor of hamburgers at the local Dairy Queen as net manufactoring job gains.
I do agree with you that it wasn't just Reagans administration where CEO's over the years had huge salary and compensation gains. The 90's we saw a huge growth of jobs, thus huge growths in salary's including manufactoring ones. Now your average Joe is making what he did in year 2000, so we've taken a 6 year regression unfortunatly. The left is as much to blame as the right, both have a few politicians that do believe we as a society are getting out of control (spending) However it seems they are still in the minority.
Apr 01, 2006 (3:07 pm)
Let's swing back to the topic please. We are NOT here to discuss politics.
#42 of 65 Re: fintail [rockylee]
Apr 01, 2006 (3:45 pm)
I cannot for the life of me understand why you would not have praised the $100k tax deduction for small businesses. It was good for the little guy and it was good for the Big 3. If they had made it for cars and light SUVs the money would have ended up in Tokyo instead of Detroit. Your dad may have built parts for some of those PU trucks and SUVs that were purchased under that tax bill. It stimulated sales of the vehicles GM builds best and can make a profit on. I think the only Toyotas that would qualify was the Land Cruiser and LX470. Both way over priced. Not built for the working class buyer.
#43 of 65 Re: fintail [gagrice]
Apr 01, 2006 (3:56 pm)
agree, but most buisness owners drive 4 runners and Lexus 470's. Do you think they would actually be seen driving a domestic ? They are above that. Thus proving my point.
Apr 01, 2006 (4:24 pm)
'Not built for the working class buyer'...unlike the Slade and the Denali and H2, right? Come on now.
#45 of 65 Re: . [fintail]
Apr 01, 2006 (4:27 pm)
Maybe the upper middle working class buyer.