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Volkswagen Passat, Sedan, Wagon
#83 of 292 Passat Sludge Issues
Jun 07, 2006 (3:55 pm)
I can absolutely understand your issues. My husband and I purchased a 2002 Passat Wagon last June and have nothing but problems with it. It is honestly the WORST car I have ever owned, even over my 1997 Geo and my 1998 Hyundai that I do not still own but wish I did every time I think about my Passat. After having the car in the shop four times over 10 months for various lights, including the Oil Pressure light, it broke down about 200 miles from my home and has been down for the past two weeks because of the sludge build up. Yes, I will admit that I am not one of those anal retentive people who are Nazi about maintenance, however, when we purchased the car there was a sticker in it saying that there was just an oil change on it and on one of the occasions when it was in the shop, at the dealership, I was told they had changed the oil. Well, after being stranded 200 miles from home, I was informed that this car had NEVER had an oil change and because I can't prove that the dealership told me they had changed the oil and that the sticker wasn't proof enough for them, they would not cover it under warranty. Luckily, it doesn't require a new engine at this point, however it is costing me over $1,200 to have it remedied. As a "less than perfect owner" I would just like to say that I don't think that we are trying to necessarily push off the blame onto Volkswagen, but it seems that the quality of their products in conjunction with the quality of the work being performed by their "certified dealerships" is not up to par. I feel that if this sludge building up was causing problems for a number of months, one of their "certified mechanics" could have been smart enough to figure this out earlier. I am glad to hear you are enjoying your new car and I too soon will be going back to Honda, and I vow to NEVER AGAIN OWN A VOLKSWAGEN!
#84 of 292 Re: Passat Sludge Issues [stefanief01]
Jun 08, 2006 (5:36 am)
Sorry to hear about the problems you are experiencing with your "new" Passat. First off, how many miles were on the car when you bought it? Did you say that the car NEVER had the oil changed prior to you buying it?
If that is the case, how on earth are you blaming VW for the cars sludge issue? Are you really stating that if a car NEVER has the oil changed it should still run without problems?
How long have you owned this car? How many miles?
#85 of 292 good luck with any car
Jun 08, 2006 (6:42 am)
PS Thanks for calling me names as this probably describes me: "anal retentive people who are Nazi about maintenance".
Could you explain in simple English what you mean?
Jun 08, 2006 (8:07 am)
I purchased the car with about 35,000 miles on it and over the course of about 10,000 additional miles, of which I admit to only having the oil changed once, at least that is what the dealership told me when it was in there for one of the "issues", they said it had been changed as part of the repair.
I am not "blaming" VW I am basically saying that this car is a nightmare and not just for the reasons of the sludge. Set aside the fact that this car was in the dealership auto shop four times for this issue yet none of their genius mechanics could figure that out. I don't blame VW for the sludge buildup I actually would like to hold the dealership at fault, or partly at fault, for the falsified oil sticker in the window for one, and two for lying to me about changing the oil.
I also have come to the conclusion that VWs suck in general. Really I do now believe that. My sister owns a Jetta that has had nothing but problems including recalled electrical problems that have had to be fixed four times since 2001, that was just fixed about four months ago and yet again all of her lights are not working. I now know a number of VW owners, I live in a city of VW owners and I don't know one at the present time that doesn't regret getting a VW.
I would also like to say that I am totally disgusted at the RUDE behavior some people on here are displaying. I'm sorry that I am having problems and HATE VW and that you are fine. I’m sorry that you are probably one of those people who washes their car with a cloth diaper, but sorry, I have a life to attend to and can't constantly worry about a car that was practically brand new when I bought it, (at least it was sold to me as a “almost new” car, but then again I guess I should never trust a car salesman should I.) I joined this Forum to view and seek out advice and stories from other VW drivers not to be criticized by people who think they know everything!
#87 of 292 Re: [stefanief01]
Jun 08, 2006 (8:32 am)
With all due respect, you didn't really ask for advice in your post, you were just telling what happened and saying you'd never buy a VW again.
I think people were trying to get the details clarified rather than directly criticizing you. Maybe if you have some specific questions, we can try to answer them for you.
I'm sorry for what you've experienced with your Passat.
#88 of 292 Re: [stefanief01]
Jun 08, 2006 (8:45 am)
I surely hope you don't place me in that category of "rude" people. Reading the various posts that relate to your entry, I don't see anyone being rude.
Lets see, you bought the car with 35,000 miles and proceeded to drive 10,000 additional miles. You changed the oil once during that time. That is not negligent. Passats are required to have their oil changed every 5K miles so you did nothing wrong there. You said besides the oil sludge issue, the car has been a nightmare. But you haven't stated what else was wrong with it. You told us all the problems your sister has had, but I must have missed the other problems you have had with your Passat.
I am not trying to be rude in anyway, but I am sure you didn't post on Edmunds and not expect responses from fellow forum members. Right?
This is a complete shot in the dark and excuse me if you take offense to this comment, but here goes.... If you are talking to your Service Advisor and Service Manager (at the VW dealership) in the same tone you are writing your messages on this board, then no wonder they have not been too willing to work these issues out with you.
BTW: Did you get a mechanic, other than the VW dealer, to look over this car before you bought it?
#89 of 292 Buying A Used 2002 Passat w/ 1.8 T
Jun 24, 2006 (2:00 pm)
Ok, I've never heard of this sludge issue before we checked this forum. I am interested in buying a 2002 passat with a 1.8 turbo engine from a private seller. Without having to ask the seller, is there any way of checking for this issue before I actually purchase the vehicle? Thanks!
#90 of 292 Re: Buying A Used 2002 Passat w/ 1.8 T [camwil]
Jun 26, 2006 (3:49 am)
Have your mechanic check the car out thoroughly!!
#91 of 292 Re: Passat Sludge Issues - should I sale?
Jun 29, 2006 (6:56 pm)
Up until last weekend my 2002 Passat has been awesome. No problems - runs great and fun to drive. I have 75K miles on it and have only had to replace the headlights and tires. I drive it pretty hard and have never paid any attention to cooling down the turbos or anything else. It has been an excellent car.
I have always taken it to the dealer for maintenance ...but I am sure I have skipped an oil change or two. Since the warranty expired at (50k? 60K ... I forget) I haven't had it serviced. I was planning on taking it in when I hit 75K this week (thinking 75K was some big checkup) and of course this past weekend I got the "STOP engine" oil pressure low light.
I pulled over - checked the oil and it was empty. I put a couple quarts in it and drove a couple miles - the light stayed on. I then had it towed to a dealership. 1200 later I had a new oil pump and my 80K sparkplug/filter change. I had never heard of this sludge issue before ...
I am wondering if I should sale it while its all tuned up and running again. The dealership told me that the engine was a-okay. Does this seem plausible? Does it seem likely that if I maintain a strict schedule of oil changes that the car will be ok for the next few years?
#92 of 292 what do you mean by
Jun 30, 2006 (8:04 am)
No oil change for from 50K to 75K (warranty expires at 50K). Please explain.